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<blockquote data-quote="zonetrooper1" data-source="post: 5417329" data-attributes="member: 95921">I've been thinking about what a lot of you have said while I was at work today and I think the skills, feats and the way some of the classes are handled is all I really like about pathfinder. I feel like I'm playing an RPG based on a video game and I don't really care for video games. I'm a fan of Conan and the sword and the sorcerer, the old b-grade stuff. That's what I think of when I play 2e, not WOW (which I find boring as hell).&nbsp;- I don't like the ability mods for every score.- I don't like that all classes advance with the same number of exp.- I don't like that every race can be every class.- I don't like that combat gets so bogged down with rules.- I don't like that a lot of the class features are getting muddied by skills.- I don't like how the rogue is now kinder and gentler.- Level progression should be slow. That's why we play. To keep pushing forward with our character so they can survive crazier and weirder scenarios.&nbsp;And that's just a few. My son has a third level half orc fighter that gets a +8 to hit and a 20 AC. That's crazy. When I played 2e, it took years to move my character to levels where most adventures were a cake walk. Now we can do it in one adventure path. Oh <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, I just did a &quot;back in my day&quot; thing didn't I. lol. Anyway.&nbsp;I think I have pretty much made up my mind to go back to 2e. Pathfinder is a good game that's for sure, but it's not for me. Thanks everyone for your opinion, suggestions, and just being an all around great sounding board. You guys rock!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="zonetrooper1, post: 5417329, member: 95921"] I've been thinking about what a lot of you have said while I was at work today and I think the skills, feats and the way some of the classes are handled is all I really like about pathfinder. I feel like I'm playing an RPG based on a video game and I don't really care for video games. I'm a fan of Conan and the sword and the sorcerer, the old b-grade stuff. That's what I think of when I play 2e, not WOW (which I find boring as hell). - I don't like the ability mods for every score. - I don't like that all classes advance with the same number of exp. - I don't like that every race can be every class. - I don't like that combat gets so bogged down with rules. - I don't like that a lot of the class features are getting muddied by skills. - I don't like how the rogue is now kinder and gentler. - Level progression should be slow. That's why we play. To keep pushing forward with our character so they can survive crazier and weirder scenarios. And that's just a few. My son has a third level half orc fighter that gets a +8 to hit and a 20 AC. That's crazy. When I played 2e, it took years to move my character to levels where most adventures were a cake walk. Now we can do it in one adventure path. Oh :):):):), I just did a "back in my day" thing didn't I. lol. Anyway. I think I have pretty much made up my mind to go back to 2e. Pathfinder is a good game that's for sure, but it's not for me. Thanks everyone for your opinion, suggestions, and just being an all around great sounding board. You guys rock! [/QUOTE]

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