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<blockquote data-quote="Man in the Funny Hat" data-source="post: 5418686" data-attributes="member: 32740">Way back when, in 2000/2001 I had to beat people with this point endlessly.&nbsp; You CANNOT directly compare numbers from 3rd Edition with those from earlier editions.&nbsp; The systems work DIFFERENTLY and numbers do not carry the same values.&nbsp; Are PC hit points higher in 3E than 1E/2E.&nbsp; Sure they are, but so are monster hit points and damage values.&nbsp; I've played 1E games where we could grind through big modules with 20, 30, 100 rooms/encounters without our PC's needing to withdraw in order to rest and without even coming close to levelling up.&nbsp; 3E has characters leveling up roughly every 13 encounters and expecting to withdraw entirely to rest/recover resources at least twice in that time.&nbsp; The games work DIFFERENTLY.&nbsp;I always said, &quot;Judge each system by it's own merits - not by the fact that it ISN'T something else, especially if it's trying to be something quite different.&quot;&nbsp; Judge 3E by how well it does what IT does, not by how badly it does what earlier editions did.&nbsp; If you want what earlier editions did instead of what 3E or 4E does, then use those rules that better fit what you want from your game time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Man in the Funny Hat, post: 5418686, member: 32740"] Way back when, in 2000/2001 I had to beat people with this point endlessly. You CANNOT directly compare numbers from 3rd Edition with those from earlier editions. The systems work DIFFERENTLY and numbers do not carry the same values. Are PC hit points higher in 3E than 1E/2E. Sure they are, but so are monster hit points and damage values. I've played 1E games where we could grind through big modules with 20, 30, 100 rooms/encounters without our PC's needing to withdraw in order to rest and without even coming close to levelling up. 3E has characters leveling up roughly every 13 encounters and expecting to withdraw entirely to rest/recover resources at least twice in that time. The games work DIFFERENTLY. I always said, "Judge each system by it's own merits - not by the fact that it ISN'T something else, especially if it's trying to be something quite different." Judge 3E by how well it does what IT does, not by how badly it does what earlier editions did. If you want what earlier editions did instead of what 3E or 4E does, then use those rules that better fit what you want from your game time. [/QUOTE]

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