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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5453706" data-attributes="member: 6957">I think that he is saying that 2e retained multiple dissimilar systems for what could, and should, have been handled with a single core system. And that the NWP rules, strictly enforced, prevented folks from attempting things that should have been general skills for adventurers.For my part, I thought that 2e having any rules expanding on the NWP was a big step forward, and that putting points allocation for thiefly skills into the players' hands was a major improvement.About the only thing that could tempt me with running a 2e game though is Birthright, it never quite translated properly to 3.X, but I loved that setting.The Auld Grump</blockquote>