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I'm going to make a "Tome of Battle" character. Swordsage? Warblade? Advice?
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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5882126" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>If the game ends at 5th level, you want to be single classed to get that 3rd level maneuver. Especially if a Warblade or Crusader, as that manuever can be White Raven Tactics. The only crappy thing is due to both of those classes having messed up stance progressions, you'll never get to enjoy a 3rd level stance. Oh well.</p><p></p><p>Crusader is boring but effective, IMO. Their maneuver granted mechanic might be too big a pain for you to care to learn.</p><p></p><p>Warblade is the best damage dealer and can take a hit w/ his d12, though his AC tends to be pathetic and thus still manages to feel almost like a "glass canon." Almost.</p><p></p><p>Swordsage has the most maneuvers and gets some really interesting options, but lacks access to BOTH of the 2 best maneuvers in the game - WR Tactics and Iron Heart Surge. The BAB also kind of hurts, as does the awful refresh mechanic (Adaptive Style is basically a required feat for them...like, to a far greater extent than Natural Spell is a "hidden class feature" is to druids; they cannot function without it).</p><p></p><p>Have you looked at the disciplines at all? Are there any you particularly like? That'd be the best way to figure out what class to play. You can basically focus in two and get a fair amount of maneuvers from each; might be able to dip a tiny bit into a 3rd or 4th for like 1 maneuver or stance. Swordsage can pretty easily go into up to 3 different disciplines.</p><p></p><p>Since Swordsage w/ Adaptive Style is the most "jack of all trades"-y of the 3 and given your party, I'd probably suggest playing that class unless you really like White Raven, Iron Heart, and/or Devoted Spirit a lot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5882126, member: 35909"] If the game ends at 5th level, you want to be single classed to get that 3rd level maneuver. Especially if a Warblade or Crusader, as that manuever can be White Raven Tactics. The only crappy thing is due to both of those classes having messed up stance progressions, you'll never get to enjoy a 3rd level stance. Oh well. Crusader is boring but effective, IMO. Their maneuver granted mechanic might be too big a pain for you to care to learn. Warblade is the best damage dealer and can take a hit w/ his d12, though his AC tends to be pathetic and thus still manages to feel almost like a "glass canon." Almost. Swordsage has the most maneuvers and gets some really interesting options, but lacks access to BOTH of the 2 best maneuvers in the game - WR Tactics and Iron Heart Surge. The BAB also kind of hurts, as does the awful refresh mechanic (Adaptive Style is basically a required feat for them...like, to a far greater extent than Natural Spell is a "hidden class feature" is to druids; they cannot function without it). Have you looked at the disciplines at all? Are there any you particularly like? That'd be the best way to figure out what class to play. You can basically focus in two and get a fair amount of maneuvers from each; might be able to dip a tiny bit into a 3rd or 4th for like 1 maneuver or stance. Swordsage can pretty easily go into up to 3 different disciplines. Since Swordsage w/ Adaptive Style is the most "jack of all trades"-y of the 3 and given your party, I'd probably suggest playing that class unless you really like White Raven, Iron Heart, and/or Devoted Spirit a lot. [/QUOTE]
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