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<blockquote data-quote="JustinA" data-source="post: 3540786" data-attributes="member: 51618">Fair enough. But that's a fairly simplistic definition of &quot;defeat&quot; in a dungeon where you're supposed to be working your away around challenges discretely and intelligently, not throwing yourself at them recklessly.The module even says: &quot;If any character is so foolish as to touch the skull of the demi-lich...&quot; Since that's the only way for a confrontation with the demi-lich to occur, you're requiring the PCs to behave foolishly in order to defeat the dungeon.If that's the definition you want to use, go for it. But it's a fairly pointless and meaningless definition with no application in the actual practice of using the module.Or it could have just been an identify spell.This technique explicitly doesn't work in the 3.5 adaptation, however.&nbsp; (The crown can't be removed from the throne room.)You are incorrect. After sucking 6 souls, the skull teleports anyone remaining several hundred miles away and strikes them with a nasty curse.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JustinA, post: 3540786, member: 51618"] Fair enough. But that's a fairly simplistic definition of "defeat" in a dungeon where you're supposed to be working your away around challenges discretely and intelligently, not throwing yourself at them recklessly. The module even says: "If any character is so foolish as to touch the skull of the demi-lich..." Since that's the only way for a confrontation with the demi-lich to occur, you're requiring the PCs to behave foolishly in order to defeat the dungeon. If that's the definition you want to use, go for it. But it's a fairly pointless and meaningless definition with no application in the actual practice of using the module. Or it could have just been an [i]identify[/i] spell. This technique explicitly doesn't work in the 3.5 adaptation, however. (The crown can't be removed from the throne room.) You are incorrect. After sucking 6 souls, the skull teleports anyone remaining several hundred miles away and strikes them with a nasty curse. [/QUOTE]

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