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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 398176" data-attributes="member: 177">Much of this depends on cosmology - how much the goddess knows about individual person's actions, and how well she can communicate.So here's a question for you...Let's say there's a warlord out there, causing huge numbers of deaths.&nbsp; What's better in the eyes of the goddess - killing that one person, or allowing him to live?&nbsp; By your description, this goddess is pacifistic for practical reasons, rather than idealistic ones.&nbsp; It would seem to me then, that she'd be better off mostly disallowing killing, but allowing her worshippers to keep a little bit of butt-whooping power for when the individual kill is really necessary to prevent more deaths.&nbsp; Misuse of that but-whoopping power should have grave consequences, though.&nbsp; Remember that in all likelyhood the druids aren't usually the ones racking up huge body counts except in service of nature anyway.That, however, presupposes that the goddess knows when a worshipper uses the power, and why, and can act in reprisal if her power is misused.&nbsp; It also really requires her to get the message across that misuse isn't going to be tolerated.&nbsp; However, if you want to keep damaging spells off the list, what else is a druid to do?&nbsp; In a world where killing is already commonplace, how is a druid to stop that killing without the ability to use force?&nbsp; Answer that question, and you'll find a way to keep your player happy and useful in the party.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 398176, member: 177"] Much of this depends on cosmology - how much the goddess knows about individual person's actions, and how well she can communicate. So here's a question for you... Let's say there's a warlord out there, causing huge numbers of deaths. What's better in the eyes of the goddess - killing that one person, or allowing him to live? By your description, this goddess is pacifistic for practical reasons, rather than idealistic ones. It would seem to me then, that she'd be better off [i]mostly[/i] disallowing killing, but allowing her worshippers to keep a little bit of butt-whooping power for when the individual kill is really necessary to prevent more deaths. Misuse of that but-whoopping power should have grave consequences, though. Remember that in all likelyhood the druids aren't usually the ones racking up huge body counts except in service of nature anyway. That, however, presupposes that the goddess knows when a worshipper uses the power, and why, and can act in reprisal if her power is misused. It also really requires her to get the message across that misuse isn't going to be tolerated. However, if you want to keep damaging spells off the list, what else is a druid to do? In a world where killing is already commonplace, how is a druid to stop that killing without the ability to use force? Answer that question, and you'll find a way to keep your player happy and useful in the party. [/QUOTE]

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