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<blockquote data-quote="Johnnie Freedom!" data-source="post: 1806434" data-attributes="member: 18723"><p>Long story short: I've been gaming off and on since the old days. I started with Earl Otus' red box basic set (didn't we all?) and dabbled a bit with AD&D 1e. Blah blah blah. Time passes and 3.0 comes out. When it does, I return to gaming (more a coincidence than anything; I didn't "leave because of Vampire and 2e" or something like that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ).</p><p></p><p>I find myself in the position of someone who wants to like 3.0/3.5 but keeps finding it difficult. Here's what I don't like:</p><p></p><p>Feats</p><p>Detailed tactical combat rules</p><p>Prestige classes</p><p>Too rules heavy </p><p>Gigantic stat blocks for NPCs/monsters, especially at higher levels</p><p></p><p>I've been wondering a lot lately if perhaps I would prefer an older version of (A)D&D. Something more rules-lite, faster moving, something where character stats and progression (new feats, prestige classes, skills, etc.) isn't such a huge factor.</p><p></p><p>Now I know the first suggestion that many of you will make is Castles & Crusades, but I'm avoiding C&C. The main reason is name recognition. I frequently try to recruit new players and I like having the D&D "brand" to do so. I don't want to have to say "Come play Castles & Crusades. It's...uh...just like D&D!" Frankly, I'm also a bit attached to the D&D brand. It moves me on some level. "Castles & Crusades" just doesn't do it. And, with all respect to the *real* old timers, I'm not into OD&D either. </p><p></p><p>As I see it, here's the options:</p><p></p><p>(1) Take up AD&D 1e.</p><p>(2) Take up AD&D 2e.</p><p>(3) Take up Rules Cyclopedia D&D.</p><p></p><p>A few comments on these options...</p><p>For one thing, I don't remember AD&D 1e at all. I was in grade 6 when I played it, and we played it for only a session or two. I know Basic/Expert D&D fairly well (what became Rules Cyclopedia), but to be honest, I'm not crazy about it. Although I like how rules-lite it is and how much nostalgia is attached to it (for me), I hate the "races as classes thing." Seems too limiting.</p><p></p><p>What worries me about *all* of these options is that I'm not sure how many players are out there for these versions of the game. I'd hate to find my "dream" version of D&D and then not find anyone to play with me! :\ </p><p></p><p>Also, I love Planescape and Ravenloft (2e Ravenloft). I have a TON of stuff for these settings. That's one of the reasons I've thought of AD&D 2e.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and BTW, I'm not bothered by the illogical/cobbled together/whathaveyou nature of the mechanics of the earlier editions. In some ways, I almost like it that way...3.0/3.5 almost feels a little too polished and slick...I've heard the "videogame" analogy before, and that almost seems to fit. Strictly IMHO, of course. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p>Anyway, if you're still reading, thanks for following this ramble. I'd appreciate any advice or encouragement any of you can offer. I'm actually a bit discouraged, to tell you the truth. I'm going through a "gaming identity crisis" or something, as stupid as that sounds, and I need to find my way.</p><p></p><p>Any advice?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Johnnie Freedom!, post: 1806434, member: 18723"] Long story short: I've been gaming off and on since the old days. I started with Earl Otus' red box basic set (didn't we all?) and dabbled a bit with AD&D 1e. Blah blah blah. Time passes and 3.0 comes out. When it does, I return to gaming (more a coincidence than anything; I didn't "leave because of Vampire and 2e" or something like that. ;) ). I find myself in the position of someone who wants to like 3.0/3.5 but keeps finding it difficult. Here's what I don't like: Feats Detailed tactical combat rules Prestige classes Too rules heavy Gigantic stat blocks for NPCs/monsters, especially at higher levels I've been wondering a lot lately if perhaps I would prefer an older version of (A)D&D. Something more rules-lite, faster moving, something where character stats and progression (new feats, prestige classes, skills, etc.) isn't such a huge factor. Now I know the first suggestion that many of you will make is Castles & Crusades, but I'm avoiding C&C. The main reason is name recognition. I frequently try to recruit new players and I like having the D&D "brand" to do so. I don't want to have to say "Come play Castles & Crusades. It's...uh...just like D&D!" Frankly, I'm also a bit attached to the D&D brand. It moves me on some level. "Castles & Crusades" just doesn't do it. And, with all respect to the *real* old timers, I'm not into OD&D either. As I see it, here's the options: (1) Take up AD&D 1e. (2) Take up AD&D 2e. (3) Take up Rules Cyclopedia D&D. A few comments on these options... For one thing, I don't remember AD&D 1e at all. I was in grade 6 when I played it, and we played it for only a session or two. I know Basic/Expert D&D fairly well (what became Rules Cyclopedia), but to be honest, I'm not crazy about it. Although I like how rules-lite it is and how much nostalgia is attached to it (for me), I hate the "races as classes thing." Seems too limiting. What worries me about *all* of these options is that I'm not sure how many players are out there for these versions of the game. I'd hate to find my "dream" version of D&D and then not find anyone to play with me! :\ Also, I love Planescape and Ravenloft (2e Ravenloft). I have a TON of stuff for these settings. That's one of the reasons I've thought of AD&D 2e. Oh, and BTW, I'm not bothered by the illogical/cobbled together/whathaveyou nature of the mechanics of the earlier editions. In some ways, I almost like it that way...3.0/3.5 almost feels a little too polished and slick...I've heard the "videogame" analogy before, and that almost seems to fit. Strictly IMHO, of course. ;) Anyway, if you're still reading, thanks for following this ramble. I'd appreciate any advice or encouragement any of you can offer. I'm actually a bit discouraged, to tell you the truth. I'm going through a "gaming identity crisis" or something, as stupid as that sounds, and I need to find my way. Any advice? [/QUOTE]
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