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<blockquote data-quote="Garthanos" data-source="post: 5209231" data-attributes="member: 82504">Must be just 3e - not my experience at all with AD&amp;D. In fact the low level mu were useless in a fight and eventually made everyone else feel useless . It wasn't OK by anybody I knew for there characters to feel useless for level after level A <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-fan-creations-house-rules/274402-non-combatant-princess-how-abuse-warlord.html#post5139980" target="_blank">non combatant</a> is quite fun in 4e... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> but you as a player arent on the bench during battle even if your character isnt making attacks. Thing is a hero definitely needs to be useful in conflict (that is where stories lie) whether its because of their heroic luck or perception or whatever in the violent fantasy worlds of D&amp;D a lot of that conflict is going to be blades and magics of destruction. I seriously don't get wanting your character to be useless a healthy part of the game. That said as a DM your backstory is my first go to for hooks to bring you in to the game so if something is featured in your background expect to see them in play. If you want flower arrangement, origami and cooking ... they are free of charge (these can indeed be significant elements of an authentic Samurai or Sainted Archer Priestess.) For instance = if you try to use them to influence somebody it may be a circumstance bonus on a diplomacy check if they like/dislike the things you do. etc...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Garthanos, post: 5209231, member: 82504"] Must be [B]just[/B] 3e - not my experience at all with AD&D. In fact the low level mu were useless in a fight and eventually made everyone else feel useless . It wasn't OK by anybody I knew for there characters to feel useless for level after level A [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/4e-fan-creations-house-rules/274402-non-combatant-princess-how-abuse-warlord.html#post5139980"]non combatant[/URL] is quite fun in 4e... :lol: but you as a player arent on the bench during battle even if your character isnt making attacks. Thing is a hero definitely needs to be useful in conflict (that is where stories lie) whether its because of their heroic luck or perception or whatever in the violent fantasy worlds of D&D a lot of that conflict is going to be blades and magics of destruction. I seriously don't get wanting your character to be useless a healthy part of the game. That said as a DM your backstory is my first go to for hooks to bring you in to the game so if something is featured in your background expect to see them in play. If you want flower arrangement, origami and cooking ... they are free of charge (these can indeed be significant elements of an authentic Samurai or Sainted Archer Priestess.) For instance = if you try to use them to influence somebody it may be a circumstance bonus on a diplomacy check if they like/dislike the things you do. etc... [/QUOTE]

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