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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 5209817" data-attributes="member: 20323"><p>I agree that reading the 4e books (especially the phb series) is dry, but that in play it is dynamic and fun. Having just DMed a year-long heroic tier campaign for a group of 7 gamers new to 4e, here were the comments I noticed repeatedly... Combat was really exciting! There felt like there was more riding on each roll. You always feel like you have choices, sometimes too many. After a while few challenges felt life-threatening (and I consistently gave them encounters 3 to 5 levels beyond them) but at the same time it was nice not to feel so fragile at lower levels. Skill challenges were very fun but players were overall more comfortable with a &quot;roll as you go&quot; style.&nbsp; There's a steep learning curve for players coming from 3e. Players started getting locked in to powers and improvised less (despite explicit reminders). For non-tactically minded players choosing which power to use was&nbsp; overwhelming. It was hard to visualize certain powers in play, especially with leaders. Character creation limits concepts for spellcasters. Rituals were often forgotten but were used to great effect. Leveling is more interesting than 3e. The phb is boring to read..... That's everything I can remember.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 5209817, member: 20323"] I agree that reading the 4e books (especially the phb series) is dry, but that in play it is dynamic and fun. Having just DMed a year-long heroic tier campaign for a group of 7 gamers new to 4e, here were the comments I noticed repeatedly... Combat was really exciting! There felt like there was more riding on each roll. You always feel like you have choices, sometimes too many. After a while few challenges felt life-threatening (and I consistently gave them encounters 3 to 5 levels beyond them) but at the same time it was nice not to feel so fragile at lower levels. Skill challenges were very fun but players were overall more comfortable with a "roll as you go" style. There's a steep learning curve for players coming from 3e. Players started getting locked in to powers and improvised less (despite explicit reminders). For non-tactically minded players choosing which power to use was overwhelming. It was hard to visualize certain powers in play, especially with leaders. Character creation limits concepts for spellcasters. Rituals were often forgotten but were used to great effect. Leveling is more interesting than 3e. The phb is boring to read..... That's everything I can remember. [/QUOTE]

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