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<blockquote data-quote="alms66" data-source="post: 5325969" data-attributes="member: 93441"><p>This is absolutely true, I thought I'd made that clear on my first post's first sentence, "To play GURPS as a fantasy system (which is the only way I've ever used it) you need the two core books only." I just realized with this quote above that it's been dismissed though...</p><p></p><p>GURPS really does not need any of the books I mentioned besides the basic set (2 core books) to run fantasy, I merely listed them and why it would be great to buy those supplements - mostly just making your life as a GM easier, but they're totally optional. GURPS is a great system for fantasy too, as it allows you to run from the "gritty & realistic" lowest of the low fantasy, to the "cinematic & absurd" highest of the high fantasy. You just need to apply the optional rules in the core books correctly.</p><p></p><p>As for GURPS being a toolkit, after getting into HERO system, I simply have to disagree on that one. But that's another topic for another thread.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Another option you might consider, <em><strong>is </strong></em>HERO system. Quite frankly, I love GURPS and played it almost exclusively for years. It really is that good of a fantasy system to use. However, I recently converted to HERO, and here's why...</p><p></p><p>HERO allows you to build any, and I mean ANY magic system you can imagine. You want Vancian (I know YOU don't, but, just an example)? You got it. You want traditional tribal/shamanistic magic that works exactly the way you think is should work mechanically? You got it. All you have to do is build it and the rules for that a laid out in the core set (2 books for 6E). I love toying around with lots of different and unique magic systems - this was a HUGE sell for me.</p><p></p><p>HERO otherwise, is almost just like GURPS (and I've already stated I loved that so, no surprise I'd like HERO here), it's a point-buy system, had advantages/disadvantages (though named slightly differently and broken into various categories - which GURPS is headed this way anyhow as of 4E). HERO is also much more flexible than GURPS with character creation. It is also a true "toolkit" rpg in that you have to essentially "build the rpg" you want to play from the rules laid out within the core books. That may sound bad - but it's <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing awesome in practice - sure it requires a good bit of upfront work from you the GM, to get the game up and running - moreso than most other RPG's at least, but for that price you get exactly the game you want, no compromises, no "oh well, I'll live with it - which I did do with GURPS sometimes. EXACTLY what you imagine is EXACTLY what you get, and I for one, <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />ing love that - and cannot say enough good stuff about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alms66, post: 5325969, member: 93441"] This is absolutely true, I thought I'd made that clear on my first post's first sentence, "To play GURPS as a fantasy system (which is the only way I've ever used it) you need the two core books only." I just realized with this quote above that it's been dismissed though... GURPS really does not need any of the books I mentioned besides the basic set (2 core books) to run fantasy, I merely listed them and why it would be great to buy those supplements - mostly just making your life as a GM easier, but they're totally optional. GURPS is a great system for fantasy too, as it allows you to run from the "gritty & realistic" lowest of the low fantasy, to the "cinematic & absurd" highest of the high fantasy. You just need to apply the optional rules in the core books correctly. As for GURPS being a toolkit, after getting into HERO system, I simply have to disagree on that one. But that's another topic for another thread. Another option you might consider, [I][B]is [/B][/I]HERO system. Quite frankly, I love GURPS and played it almost exclusively for years. It really is that good of a fantasy system to use. However, I recently converted to HERO, and here's why... HERO allows you to build any, and I mean ANY magic system you can imagine. You want Vancian (I know YOU don't, but, just an example)? You got it. You want traditional tribal/shamanistic magic that works exactly the way you think is should work mechanically? You got it. All you have to do is build it and the rules for that a laid out in the core set (2 books for 6E). I love toying around with lots of different and unique magic systems - this was a HUGE sell for me. HERO otherwise, is almost just like GURPS (and I've already stated I loved that so, no surprise I'd like HERO here), it's a point-buy system, had advantages/disadvantages (though named slightly differently and broken into various categories - which GURPS is headed this way anyhow as of 4E). HERO is also much more flexible than GURPS with character creation. It is also a true "toolkit" rpg in that you have to essentially "build the rpg" you want to play from the rules laid out within the core books. That may sound bad - but it's :):):):)ing awesome in practice - sure it requires a good bit of upfront work from you the GM, to get the game up and running - moreso than most other RPG's at least, but for that price you get exactly the game you want, no compromises, no "oh well, I'll live with it - which I did do with GURPS sometimes. EXACTLY what you imagine is EXACTLY what you get, and I for one, :):):):)ing love that - and cannot say enough good stuff about it. [/QUOTE]
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