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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6806536" data-attributes="member: 996">You could hardly call something with the DPR potential of the Campion 'weak,' it's just extremely Inflexible.  And, that's one reason the Warlord needs to exist, because the few existing non-magical sub-classes are too DPR-focused and inflexible to handle it.That simply can't work, those sub-classes (there are no martial classes in the PH, they all use magic in one or more of their sub-classes) are too locked into DPR as their primary in-combat contribution.All classes in the 5e PH were in 4e, and had a lot of fiddly tactical movement and the like in their powers too, it didn't stop them from being translated into 5e.  It's not that 5e can't handle such things, it's just that it mostly doesn't handle them in detail, in the name of fast combat.</blockquote>