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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6817082" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Essentials and 5e both called back to the classic game as much as they could (5e obviously much more successfully), so the similarity is hardly surprising. Action Surge & Second Wind are, of course, obvious hat-tips to the Essentials Fighter(Slayer), and the BM's Maneuvers, a vestige of choice/agency experimented with prior to Essentials in 4e & Bo9S. Add to that the obvious fact that the Fighter(Slayer) was an intentionally-simplistic tough Striker and the 5e Fighter(Champion) is an intentionally-simplistic DPR Tank, and you're certainly not wrong about the superficial similarity.</p><p></p><p>But, the main thrust(npi) of the 5e fighter is its multi-attack-based DPR, and that's strongly evocative of the 2e fighter's best options, while the Essentials Fighters had no special access to multi-attacking.</p><p></p><p>In the 5e fighter's defense, that's mainly because the 2e fighter was so dramatically broken by double-specialization + TWFing. Well, and that AD&D monsters were maybe a bit short on hps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 6817082, member: 996"] Essentials and 5e both called back to the classic game as much as they could (5e obviously much more successfully), so the similarity is hardly surprising. Action Surge & Second Wind are, of course, obvious hat-tips to the Essentials Fighter(Slayer), and the BM's Maneuvers, a vestige of choice/agency experimented with prior to Essentials in 4e & Bo9S. Add to that the obvious fact that the Fighter(Slayer) was an intentionally-simplistic tough Striker and the 5e Fighter(Champion) is an intentionally-simplistic DPR Tank, and you're certainly not wrong about the superficial similarity. But, the main thrust(npi) of the 5e fighter is its multi-attack-based DPR, and that's strongly evocative of the 2e fighter's best options, while the Essentials Fighters had no special access to multi-attacking. In the 5e fighter's defense, that's mainly because the 2e fighter was so dramatically broken by double-specialization + TWFing. Well, and that AD&D monsters were maybe a bit short on hps. [/QUOTE]
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