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<blockquote data-quote="collin" data-source="post: 8046297" data-attributes="member: 6757">For me, simply put, Pathfinder is more fun as a player, but 5e is more fun as a DM.&nbsp; The thing that I think makes PF more fun is the ability to customize your character to be whatever you want in terms of multi-classing and feats.&nbsp; I know you said Pathfinder has a lot of feats, and I agree some are crappy ... so for me, I just ignore the crappy ones and choose the ones that fit the character the best.&nbsp; And I do agree about the Skills in PF being more of a nice middle ground, although I also think there should be fewer, but not as few as 5e.The feats in PF is also what makes it harder to DM.&nbsp; Feats are basically about breaking the system.&nbsp; So as a DM, you learn the rules, but along come your players who choose these awesome feats that screw with your plans to challenge them, and they breeze through a combat a lot easier than you had anticipated.&nbsp; I suspect this was a big reason WotC chose to rein in feats with 5e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="collin, post: 8046297, member: 6757"] For me, simply put, Pathfinder is more fun as a player, but 5e is more fun as a DM. The thing that I think makes PF more fun is the ability to customize your character to be whatever you want in terms of multi-classing and feats. I know you said Pathfinder has a lot of feats, and I agree some are crappy ... so for me, I just ignore the crappy ones and choose the ones that fit the character the best. And I do agree about the Skills in PF being more of a nice middle ground, although I also think there should be fewer, but not as few as 5e. The feats in PF is also what makes it harder to DM. Feats are basically about breaking the system. So as a DM, you learn the rules, but along come your players who choose these awesome feats that screw with your plans to challenge them, and they breeze through a combat a lot easier than you had anticipated. I suspect this was a big reason WotC chose to rein in feats with 5e. [/QUOTE]

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