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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8046423" data-attributes="member: 87792">For me Pathfinder is more fun if I am playing a spellcaster. 5e is far more fun if I'm playing a non-caster, whether fighter, monk, rogue, barbarian, or any other sort. There's just more interesting stuff and less fiddly stuff there. But both have enough classes I can enjoy; as a player in a class based game I only need there to be one class pitching to me (more is better admittedly) to have a good time with the right group.For DMing I refuse point blank to DM Pathfinder. If I can't look at the statblock and get almost a complete sense of the NPC's mechanics I'm not doing it (thank you feats!) as it really inhibits improvising for me. 5e is kinda meh to DM - out of combat it's nothing special and in combat tactics have been savagely limited because spellcasters can cast freely in combat as long as they stick to spells requiring saving throws and there's almost no point harassing the archers or forcing archers into combat or warriors out of it because most characters use the same stat for melee as for ranged.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8046423, member: 87792"] For me Pathfinder is more fun if I am playing a spellcaster. 5e is far more fun if I'm playing a non-caster, whether fighter, monk, rogue, barbarian, or any other sort. There's just more interesting stuff and less fiddly stuff there. But both have enough classes I can enjoy; as a player in a class based game I only need there to be one class pitching to me (more is better admittedly) to have a good time with the right group. For DMing I refuse point blank to DM Pathfinder. If I can't look at the statblock and get almost a complete sense of the NPC's mechanics I'm not doing it (thank you feats!) as it really inhibits improvising for me. 5e is kinda meh to DM - out of combat it's nothing special and in combat tactics have been savagely limited because spellcasters can cast freely in combat as long as they stick to spells requiring saving throws and there's almost no point harassing the archers or forcing archers into combat or warriors out of it because most characters use the same stat for melee as for ranged. [/QUOTE]

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