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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Emirikol" data-source="post: 2987128" data-attributes="member: 10638">Nyarcus:I feel for you.  If you've yet watched "Roleplayed" you'll feel even more depressed about not having enough gamers <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Anyways, I keep a PERPETUAL advertisement up here, WOTC, and the various game stores here in Denver, CO USA.  I get a couple bites a month.  Most of the people I can say, "We're full..but you may contact these other people."The gamer ad needs the following:1.  To sound like traditional DUNGEONS & DRAGONS gaming.  Yea, everybody's looking for a 'different' style of game..<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.  Nobody bites on advertisements that sound non-traditional D&D.  AS A RULE, people looking for a game group are looking for something familiar FIRST. That's been my experience for the past 10 years.2.  List your CITY (Manitoba right?).  Don't list an obscure suburb if you live in one.  List the main town.3.  Don't list your time if it seems like it's going to be inconvenient (Friday nights and saturdays are traditionally harder to get players).  Why don't list time?  Because people look for ANY excuse they can NOT to game (see rule #1 above) becasue people are lazy.4.  Even though you take newbies, don't list it.  There are a LOT of experienced gamers who think that because you list 'newbies welcome' that it's going to be tables of 9-year-old kids.  5.  TITLE:  D&D Players Wanted!!!6.  You don't ahve to list your name in your body text.  Leave it at the bottom:  CALL RYAN FOR DETAILS AT XXX.XXX.XXXX.  Use email too.7.  Body text: don't go into character generation or house rules.   It's not necessary.8.  Body text:  list some kind of exciting blurb about your campaign.   "The old crag tomb north of town hides a sinister secret.  Can your group find out what it is?"9.  Body text:  it's important to note that it's a NEW GROUP, even if it isn't.  Most people are looking for a new group.  Nobody wants to feel like a fifth wheel.  "New group forming.  Experienced DM."10. keep it short and keep your title large:  NEW D&D GROUP FORMING IN WINNIPEG (or wherever you are).  D&D PLAYERS WANTED!11.  If you're posting this at a game store, do two things:  tell the owner of the store to help you find other gamers (that works really well); AND have little tear-off strips at the bottom of your advertisement that have your NAME, GAME, and phone (or email).  I can't tell you how many of those things I see with jsut the phone number.  What was that for again?Check out some of the ad's on ENWORLD's players seeking players.  You'll see some really stupid ones, like the ones where people dont' even list the CITY or PROVINCE they're gaming in..nobody checks those.  Always list CITY, PROVINCE (or state) and then D&D players wanted for new group.Keep it up there and bump it occasionally.  Expect it to take a while and DON'T JUST TAKE ANYONE TO FILL YOUR GROUP.  If someone lives on teh other side of town, doesn't have a job (and is an adult), and sounds flaky, don't take them.  In my experience, those three things only end in WASTED TIME AND WASTED CAMPAIGNS.  There's nothing worse than working up a campaign, getting three sessions into it, and then the flakes drop out; leaving you to have to either design a new campaign or bring in newbies that are IMPOSSIBLE to bring up to speed like only a new campaign group can.jh..</blockquote>

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