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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 7007407" data-attributes="member: 518">Absolutely Russ. But! And getting back to Mercurius' OP In the traditional model of RPG publishing , the company produced a product,sent it to stores and the consumer had the option of evaluating the product, and purchasing in the store, or buying online (or mail- order, BITD). I often pay fl retail gladly if I really like what I see..if I feel it's not worth full price and I still want I will buy online through Amazon or what have you.The onus was on the publisher. With KS projects of today, the majority of risk is on the consumer.  Even companies of recent years who used to utilize the traditional model, like Necromancer/FGG and goodman, no longer use a traditional publishing method. They KS everything. Then put it in stores, or sometimes not depending on the scope of the projectIn addition,they often now give retailers big breaks on KS pricing vs. "regular" customers to get funded which is another sore spot with me.So, thus my decision to back away from blind purchase KS'ers in the future. I've seen alot I would love to back, but don't trust I will get what I am hoping for, or what I consider a good value. If they show up on shelves, I will take a look.</blockquote>