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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 5787357" data-attributes="member: 54846">Let's say that a player comes in, drops a character sheet in front of you, the DM. You look it over, and the sheet is min/maxed to the hilt. We're talking the guy has 8s in all his other ability scores. He's contorted and twisted the system to 1) be above and beyond the other PCs in capability, or 2) potentially breaking anything you can legitimately throw at him. But it's all legal by RAW.Is it OK for you to say to him, "No" or "Dial back the optimization"? A player has been playing a character, and it becomes clear that his character is overpowered. Due to whatever combination of choices he's made while leveling up, or whatever, it's just far too lopsided in one direction. Is it OK for you to say to him, "Change your character" or "Dial back your rules choices"? You have handed a player out a magical item. After a session of play, it's clear that it's over-powered, you didn't forsee the significant consequences, or it's being abused.Is it OK for you to say, "I made a mistake handing that item out, I'm going to have to take it back." Basically, what rights does a DM have in addressing the level of optimization at his table? I not speaking of "well you've made a competent character, and everyone else couldn't build a strong PC if they had help, so sucks to be you" but the char-oppers out there.Part of the reason I ask is, I presented a houserule elsewhere on the forum, and got the response that "A player could abuse this by taking X class with Y supplemental material and be more potent due to your rules adjustment". My reaction to that is, "Well then I tell that player that he just can't do that, or can't do it to the degree he is. I created that rule to offer more options for non-min/maxers, be simpler and multi-classers. He's taking advantage of my generosity."</blockquote>

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