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Message: <blockquote data-quote="seebs" data-source="post: 6919913" data-attributes="member: 61529">I should clarify a thing. It's nothing personal about CapnZapp that made me say "no" to "trust me".Gary Gygax, Monte Cook, Sean Reynolds, and Skip Williams could sign a statement that there are serious problems with immovable rods, and they should not be allowed or they will be abused, and if they didn't give concrete examples of what the abuses are, I would not accept the claim.Part of this is because a great deal of this clearly has to do with personal taste and gameplay style. We have had endless fun with people using immovable rods in interesting ways. We've had them placed in the location where a creature was coming-into-existence, we've had them left inside creatures which swallow targets whole, we've used them for block and tackle, we've blocked doors... And it's always been a fun thing for the group. I love it when players do things like that with immovable rods, or decanters of endless water, or any other magic item with interesting effects that aren't just a matter of doing damage and making ability checks. And that's been welcome at every table I've been at.And that's why I want to know what the specific objections are -- because sometimes it comes down to "my table wouldn't enjoy that". And if your table wouldn't, and mine would, that's completely fine. We are not required to like the same play style! But it would be a grave error for me to assume that the immovable rod must be banned because it wouldn't fit someone else's playstyle, just as it would be a grave error for them to assume that it should be fine because it fits mine.</blockquote>

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