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Message: <blockquote data-quote="roske" data-source="post: 5459371" data-attributes="member: 32924">Hi,I am in a debate with a fellow player concerning the rules for Imbued Summoning (PH2) and Swarms. I have a 15th level Druid summoning a Fire Elementite Swarm (SPC). It would be cool to pop such a thing down on a Green Dragon the party is facing with either Greater Magic Fang or Metal Fang thrown on it to automatically do its swarm damage + its fire damage, also having the dragon be susceptible to its distraction attack. Below is an exert from our email discussion. Phil is the player taking the position that Imbued Summoning cannot be used on a swarm.I am further wondering if I can summon a swarm directly into an enemy's hex, especially very big critter, without causing an AoE. I guess a Ref save could be called for, although I don't see it as really necessary.The game is Saturday and will have to get the DM to make a call. However, I would like to get some more opinions.Does Imbued Summoning applied to swarms break the game?On 7 February 2011 20:08, Philip wrote:>> "A swarm is immune to any spell or effect that targets a specific number of> creatures (including single-target spells such as disintegrate), with the> exception of mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms,> patterns, and morale effects) if the swarm has an Intelligence score and a> hive mind."> <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm#swarmSubtype" target="_blank">Types & Subtypes :: d20srd.org</a>>> A touch spell *is* a single target spell.  Besides, there's nothing to> touch.  That's why a swarm is immune to weapon damage (well, that depends on> size).  You've got a point about imbuing working on a summon spell that> summons multiple creatures (though one could imagine being able to touch> multiple creatures, but a swarm is effectively untouchable).  BUT, of your> buffs of +4 STR, +4 CON, and Magic Fang, ONLY the +4 CON would have any> effect: a swarm does only Swarm damage and Swarm attacks, it does not make> natural melee attacks.  Besides, you can only imbue a summon spell with a> single buff.  Even a feat that would let you cast two buffs for the price of> once cannot circumvent that limitation.  If, however, you summon the swarm> before the encounter, it can benefit from any of the area buff spells that> either of us cast.i guess<a href="http://community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/75882/21853397/?pg=last" target="_blank">Whoops! Browser Settings Incompatible</a>i still think the imbued summoning is about effecting the spell beingsummoned and is not intended to represent the caster having to touchthe creatures being summoned, since it does not effect the range ofthe summoning spell. i think it changes the summoning spell being castand does allow for swarms to be effected by touch spells.you are correct about the augmented summoning.</blockquote>

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