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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 6107401" data-attributes="member: 7006">My intuition tells me that it is to help create the &quot;Basic&quot; versions of the Core Four classes that are still balanced and usable in and amongst &quot;Standard&quot; game character versions.Since the Basic Core Four game seems to not include selectable Skills or Feats... they instead will get set Class Features that are equivalent to what a Standard PC would get from the Skills or Feats mechanics.&nbsp; That way both a Basic and Standard version of the same class are relatively balanced against one another.So by having Open Locks, Find/Remove Traps, Pickpocketing, Climb Sheer Surfaces as feats (rather than as part of the skill system)... in all the places where a Standard Rogue would ordinarily choose a feat, the Basic Rogue can get assigned as a Class Feature a non-skill system &quot;thief skill&quot; feat from the list above.What this does is allow the Basic Rogue to end up having all the &quot;Thief Skills&quot; that an AD&amp;D 1E Thief would have, without needing to use the actual Skill System for all the other Basic Core Four classes.&nbsp; While at the same time... giving the Basic Rogue just as many Feats as the Standard Rogue so that if by some chance the game evolves from a Basic game into a Standard game (or a player wants to use a Basic Rogue in a Standard game)... that Basic Rogue is still balanced against a Standard Rogue because they both have the same number of feats.It's actually a rather clever way to allow the Basic game to mimic a 1E Rogue (for those players who wish to use D&amp;DN for a 1E-styled game) without having to port in the Skill System that every other class would ordinarily also have to use.(The only downside is that it now assumes that those specific &quot;thief skills&quot; are only usable by someone specially qualified to use them [IE a Rogue] rather than attemptable by anyone.&nbsp; Some people will be okay with that. They'll think that disarming traps is such a specialized action that not every single PC should be able to do it just by using the skill system-- only Rogues (who will get the feats as a bonus with their Rogue Scheme) and those who spend a feat slot on it, should be able to.&nbsp; Other folks will disagree with that thinking and believe that every class should be able to attempt to open locks.&nbsp; And those folks will have to have their DM just rule that those &quot;thief skill&quot; feats don't exist and that their uses get swallowed up by the skill system itself.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 6107401, member: 7006"] My intuition tells me that it is to help create the "Basic" versions of the Core Four classes that are still balanced and usable in and amongst "Standard" game character versions. Since the Basic Core Four game seems to not include selectable Skills or Feats... they instead will get set Class Features that are equivalent to what a Standard PC would get from the Skills or Feats mechanics. That way both a Basic and Standard version of the same class are relatively balanced against one another. So by having Open Locks, Find/Remove Traps, Pickpocketing, Climb Sheer Surfaces as feats (rather than as part of the skill system)... in all the places where a Standard Rogue would ordinarily choose a feat, the Basic Rogue can get assigned as a Class Feature a non-skill system "thief skill" feat from the list above. What this does is allow the Basic Rogue to end up having all the "Thief Skills" that an AD&D 1E Thief would have, without needing to use the actual Skill System for all the other Basic Core Four classes. While at the same time... giving the Basic Rogue just as many Feats as the Standard Rogue so that if by some chance the game evolves from a Basic game into a Standard game (or a player wants to use a Basic Rogue in a Standard game)... that Basic Rogue is still balanced against a Standard Rogue because they both have the same number of feats. It's actually a rather clever way to allow the Basic game to mimic a 1E Rogue (for those players who wish to use D&DN for a 1E-styled game) without having to port in the Skill System that every other class would ordinarily also have to use. (The only downside is that it now assumes that those specific "thief skills" are only usable by someone specially qualified to use them [IE a Rogue] rather than attemptable by anyone. Some people will be okay with that. They'll think that disarming traps is such a specialized action that not every single PC [I]should[/I] be able to do it just by using the skill system-- only Rogues (who will get the feats as a bonus with their Rogue Scheme) and those who spend a feat slot on it, should be able to. Other folks will disagree with that thinking and believe that every class should be able to attempt to open locks. And those folks will have to have their DM just rule that those "thief skill" feats don't exist and that their uses get swallowed up by the skill system itself.) [/QUOTE]

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