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<blockquote data-quote="Kelleris" data-source="post: 2229737" data-attributes="member: 19130">Okay, I added the bit about it being a nonmagical effect in.I'm inclined to leave it as a stun effect, actually.&nbsp; That even a fair number of creatures are immune to it doesn't bother me, and if you go out of the way to portect yourself from this backlash it should be rewarded.&nbsp; Even if you are immune to stunning, though, you're still only using a 6th-level slot to deal up to 15d6 damage for a maximum of one round, because the effect on the creature is still (more or less) erased.&nbsp; I don't think that's broken at all.I might be willing to use some other status condition if there was one that worked on undead, constructs, etc., but all of the stun-type conditions rely on having some kind of metabolism, it seems.For the &quot;talking the DM into believing you can cast the spell next round&quot; issue, what should I do?&nbsp; Add a line stating that you have to have the spell prepared or know it and have an available slot?Dang, this is getting more and more complicated.&nbsp; Darn my hide for making a time-travel spell!&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kelleris, post: 2229737, member: 19130"] Okay, I added the bit about it being a nonmagical effect in. I'm inclined to leave it as a stun effect, actually. That even a fair number of creatures are immune to it doesn't bother me, and if you go out of the way to portect yourself from this backlash it should be rewarded. Even if you [i]are[/i] immune to stunning, though, you're still only using a 6th-level slot to deal up to 15d6 damage for a maximum of one round, because the effect on the creature is still (more or less) erased. I don't think that's broken at all. I might be willing to use some other status condition if there was one that worked on undead, constructs, etc., but all of the stun-type conditions rely on having some kind of metabolism, it seems. For the "talking the DM into believing you can cast the spell next round" issue, what should I do? Add a line stating that you have to have the spell prepared or know it and have an available slot? Dang, this is getting more and more complicated. Darn my hide for making a time-travel spell! :p [/QUOTE]

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