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<blockquote data-quote="Wish" data-source="post: 3588709" data-attributes="member: 13404">So, back to feather fall.&nbsp; If it's an immediate action, and you can't use immediate actions while flat-footed, and you're flat-footed any time you're not in combat, it's pretty useless.&nbsp; Even if you walk up to a cliff, see the cliff clearly, and say, &quot;Well, it's a pretty tough climb, I'll feather fall to the bottom,&quot; you're out of luck.&nbsp; The cliff didn't surprise you, but you're not in combat, so you can't cast the spell.&nbsp; Ridiculous.&nbsp; Do you propose that one of the other PCs start shooting arrows at you so you can get to the bottom of the cliff?&nbsp; If you believe, as a previous poster has stated, that the clause allowing FF to be used in an unexpected fall isn't subsumed in the immediate action designation, could you, perhaps, close your eyes and ask your friends to shove you off the cliff at some unexpected point in the future?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wish, post: 3588709, member: 13404"] So, back to [I]feather fall[/I]. If it's an immediate action, and you can't use immediate actions while flat-footed, and you're flat-footed any time you're not in combat, it's pretty useless. Even if you walk up to a cliff, see the cliff clearly, and say, "Well, it's a pretty tough climb, I'll [I]feather fall[/I] to the bottom," you're out of luck. The cliff didn't surprise you, but you're not in combat, so you can't cast the spell. Ridiculous. Do you propose that one of the other PCs start shooting arrows at you so you can get to the bottom of the cliff? If you believe, as a previous poster has stated, that the clause allowing FF to be used in an unexpected fall isn't subsumed in the immediate action designation, could you, perhaps, close your eyes and ask your friends to shove you off the cliff at some unexpected point in the future? [/QUOTE]

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