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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5598452" data-attributes="member: 71571">1)&nbsp; If the problem is abuse of readied actions, then your problem is solved by not allowing abuse of readied actions. If players are using readied actions to circumvent an immediate action, then they're doing nothing during that time.&nbsp; They have to select a specific action.So let's say the meleers get into melee range, then ready actions.What is the trigger?&nbsp; It must be a specific action.&nbsp; Generally such things are trigger chains, where one person has a trigger, then everyone triggers when they do.&nbsp; So, you have one person triggered by the dragon's action.Let's say the trigger is 'uses his breath weapon.'&nbsp; The dragon uses Draconic Fear.&nbsp; The party just wasted their turn.&nbsp; What if the trigger was 'uses Draconic Fear'?&nbsp; The dragon breaths on them.&nbsp; The party just wasted their turn.&nbsp; What if the dragon's used those and the party triggers off of his bite?&nbsp; Dragon shifts away from the trigger man, and bites them with reach.&nbsp; As that is the trigger action, and they cannot perform their response, their readied actions go away.&nbsp; What if they make it 'The dragon moves?'&nbsp; The dragon bites.This is a real easy thing to foil... take whatever they are readying their actions to do... and do not do that thing.&nbsp; Do something else.&nbsp; Let the party waste their turns.&nbsp; Who cares about stunning them for a round, the party doing nothing is just as bad for them!The trick here is that readied actions must have a specific action as a trigger.&nbsp;&nbsp; As well, the dragon has many stuns that stop these actions from ever occuring.&nbsp; If you are stunned, your immediate reaction doesn't.There's no need to change how immediate actions work because the system doesn't force you into these corners to begin with.&nbsp; The problem with abuse comes in when you let the players do really lose triggers, like 'The dragon does something' (not legal) or 'The fighter yells go.'&nbsp; (technically legal but incredibly abusive).&nbsp; Once you properly adjudicate readied actions, you don't need to fudge the rules to make things work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5598452, member: 71571"] 1) If the problem is abuse of readied actions, then your problem is solved by not allowing abuse of readied actions. If players are using readied actions to circumvent an immediate action, then they're doing nothing during that time. They have to select a specific action. So let's say the meleers get into melee range, then ready actions. What is the trigger? It must be a specific action. Generally such things are trigger chains, where one person has a trigger, then everyone triggers when they do. So, you have one person triggered by the dragon's action. Let's say the trigger is 'uses his breath weapon.' The dragon uses Draconic Fear. The party just wasted their turn. What if the trigger was 'uses Draconic Fear'? The dragon breaths on them. The party just wasted their turn. What if the dragon's used those and the party triggers off of his bite? Dragon shifts away from the trigger man, and bites them with reach. As that is the trigger action, and they cannot perform their response, their readied actions go away. What if they make it 'The dragon moves?' The dragon bites. This is a real easy thing to foil... take whatever they are readying their actions to do... and do not do that thing. Do something else. Let the party waste their turns. Who cares about stunning them for a round, the party doing nothing is just as bad for them! The trick here is that readied actions must have a specific action as a trigger. As well, the dragon has many stuns that stop these actions from ever occuring. If you are stunned, your immediate reaction doesn't. There's no need to change how immediate actions work because the system doesn't force you into these corners to begin with. The problem with abuse comes in when you let the players do really lose triggers, like 'The dragon does something' (not legal) or 'The fighter yells go.' (technically legal but incredibly abusive). Once you properly adjudicate readied actions, you don't need to fudge the rules to make things work. [/QUOTE]

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