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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 4127217" data-attributes="member: 326">Thanks to Alzrius for his response to Adslahnit (with me working over the past few days, and again tonight, I didn't have the time for such a point by point response...though I am sure I would have gotten to it tomorrow)Hello again Slaadmaster! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Dicefreaks have temporarily set up here:<a href="http://projectdf.phpbbnow.com/" target="_blank">http://projectdf.phpbbnow.com/</a>Regarding the various Overgods I think it basically depends on ho wbig an area you assign them. AO could be described as a Demiurge if we accredit him with construction of all the universe/planes. However, its possible that AO simply created Toril in which case he'd be a mere Elder One.The Lady of Pain I always had pegged as an Avatar of the first one of Fate. So she would be an Elder One.I'm not totally sure about the Dragonlance High God.The confusion is whether or not (for example) Krynn and Toril exist in the same universe. If they do (and this is up to the DM) then these Overgods are probably no better than Elder Ones. If we take a sort of isolated viewpoint and say that Toril is the only populated world in the universe then clearly AO is a Demiurge.With potentially infinite intelligence, time travel and so forth they probably already know everything that has been said and done, and will be said and done. Whether or not that makes them parts of a machine is uncertain. Possible factions might include:1. Original Time Lords...those splinters of the Supreme Being2. Evolved Time Lords3. Lipika...mad, former supreme beings4. Anti-Beings...time lord equivalents from negative dimensions beyond entropy5. Mazzaroth...shapeshifters from the ninth dimension6. Anomalies...aberrant time lords7. Mulhatimic Dragons You'll see when I finish the relevant illustrations. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I think you would comprehend them in a form you recognised - you probably couldn't comprehend their natural form. I think every eon or two one of the time lords will get to thinking they can do a better job than the supreme being and set out on a quest to make it happen.Its the unruly player who makes everyone dislike the DM and try to take over. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Thanks for that.Thanks again! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Don't worry about it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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