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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 4129200" data-attributes="member: 8461"><p>This is a problem with <em>greater dispel magic</em> itself, rather than with its use in regards to divinity templates. This'd probably require a house rule that immortals can get a bonus on their dispel check equal to their HD (plus their divine bonus).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, this is a problem with those spells themselves. In fact, this argument is pretty much what people don't like about save-or-die (or in this case, resist-or-die) spells at all. Bear in mind that this'd only be true for gods, since sidereals and above are immune to sub-epic spells. Again, you'd probably want to house rule this so it's based on HD, rather than caster level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>WarDragon pretty well covered this. <em>Time Stop</em> doesn't let you affect anyone else while you're under its effect; this'll let the one using it buff/heal/flee as they want, but not instant-kill anyone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><em>Wish</em> and <em>miracle</em> are hardly as powerful as you're making them out to be. They can, at most, mimic spells of 8th or lower, which is hardly overpowered, since it can't even duplicate other spells of its own level, which means that <em>wish</em> could never mimic a <em>time stop</em>, for example.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 4129200, member: 8461"] This is a problem with [i]greater dispel magic[/i] itself, rather than with its use in regards to divinity templates. This'd probably require a house rule that immortals can get a bonus on their dispel check equal to their HD (plus their divine bonus). Again, this is a problem with those spells themselves. In fact, this argument is pretty much what people don't like about save-or-die (or in this case, resist-or-die) spells at all. Bear in mind that this'd only be true for gods, since sidereals and above are immune to sub-epic spells. Again, you'd probably want to house rule this so it's based on HD, rather than caster level. WarDragon pretty well covered this. [i]Time Stop[/i] doesn't let you affect anyone else while you're under its effect; this'll let the one using it buff/heal/flee as they want, but not instant-kill anyone else. [i]Wish[/i] and [i]miracle[/i] are hardly as powerful as you're making them out to be. They can, at most, mimic spells of 8th or lower, which is hardly overpowered, since it can't even duplicate other spells of its own level, which means that [i]wish[/i] could never mimic a [i]time stop[/i], for example. [/QUOTE]
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