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<blockquote data-quote="EarthSeraphEdna" data-source="post: 4134759" data-attributes="member: 49309"><p>I thought that movement speeds could not be negated, since those are technically not "abilities" in a creature's statblock at all? Of course, if the tank's movement speed came from an artifact, epic feat (Sky Walker), or a divine ability (Abnormality [Wings]), then I can see Abrogate working on any of those.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought that an enemy's entire spellcasting for one class could be negated, because in the Monster Manual, spellcasting is listed down as a single "special attack"?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Abrogate may be simple (and in fact fun) to run, but what about Nullification, Divine Nullification, and Cosmic Nullification? Dead Zone as well. Those don't just negate one ability, they negate entire tiers of abilities.</p><p></p><p>DM: "Alright guys, the enemy has Nullification. All of your feats don't work any more."</p><p>Players: "Give us several minutes to rewrite our character sheets..."</p><p></p><p>It could get a bit tedious if the characters don't have extra character sheets prepared just for the purpose of the Nullification line of abilities.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EarthSeraphEdna, post: 4134759, member: 49309"] I thought that movement speeds could not be negated, since those are technically not "abilities" in a creature's statblock at all? Of course, if the tank's movement speed came from an artifact, epic feat (Sky Walker), or a divine ability (Abnormality [Wings]), then I can see Abrogate working on any of those. I thought that an enemy's entire spellcasting for one class could be negated, because in the Monster Manual, spellcasting is listed down as a single "special attack"? Abrogate may be simple (and in fact fun) to run, but what about Nullification, Divine Nullification, and Cosmic Nullification? Dead Zone as well. Those don't just negate one ability, they negate entire tiers of abilities. DM: "Alright guys, the enemy has Nullification. All of your feats don't work any more." Players: "Give us several minutes to rewrite our character sheets..." It could get a bit tedious if the characters don't have extra character sheets prepared just for the purpose of the Nullification line of abilities. [/QUOTE]
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