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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EarthSeraphEdna" data-source="post: 4145869" data-attributes="member: 49309">That's what the minimum HD for each size category would be for. Going by the rules for the Epic Bestiary, for example, an immortal with 100 outsider HD would qualify for only Titanic size as his base size category. If, for whatever reason, he wants to be bigger than that, he would have to take Divine Immensities in order to make his size adjustable.I thought that an immortal's base race was mostly irrelevant as well, until U_K stated that an immortal's base size category is dependent on how his outsider HD compare with the HD/size advancement of his base race. Now you have to go on a guessing game of "What's X's base race, and what's the HD/size advancement for that race?" if you want to determine the maximum base size category that said immortal can start off as.</blockquote>