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Message: <blockquote data-quote="S'mon" data-source="post: 4155381" data-attributes="member: 463">Hi guys! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> (Krust here)Slightly off topic, but just wanted to say that I bought two books over the past few days.Hackmasters: Gawds & Demigawds Bastion Press: Lore of the Gods.The Hackmaster book is for the Hackmaster Game System which is basically 1st edition AD&D. I have been meaning to get this for years and its something of a disappointment. Though I suspect much of that is the status changes they apply to virtually all the gods. They have basically upended virtually all the gods.The Good: 1. They add some new pantheons.The Bad: 1. The gawd spelling gets old real quick.2. The hit point system doesn't make interaction better. 3. They don't change the damage system but the hit points are vastly multiplied.4. Some of the listed pantheons are treated half-heartedly.5. The change to the status of most of the gods doesn't make any sense (Though maybe it does to those who play in the Hackmaster setting?).6. They add in the multiple actions of 2nd Edition's Legends & Lores deities as standard...stupid idea.The Bastion Press book is a d20 book. Its basically the book WotC's Deities & Demigods (3E) should have been. It details the Egyptian, Greek, Mesopotamian and Norse Gods. Okay not quite, it only has Avatar stats. But this is a great book albeit mostly for non-epic games involving immortals (avatars).The Good:1. Very good art and lots of it.2. The Avatar stats actually make sense - unlike WotC's avatar stats. Basically the Avatar stats are half the HD and half the level of the WotC Avatars (10 Outsider HD and 20 Class Levels).3. A monster chapter (just ignore those CRs).4. 316 pages so you get lots for your money.5. An Artifact Chapter (none of them epic items as such but still good).6. A Heroes chapter.7. A Spells chapter (non-epic naturally), with new domains and stuff.8. A Prestige Class chapter.The Bad:1. Only Avatar Stats...and all the Avatars are the exact...same...level. But still a worthwhile resource.2. Whomever determined the CRs for the monsters really didn't have a clue. I mean you have a Midgard Serpent at CR 60 that looks inferior to the Tarrasque...no kidding. You have a Gullenbursti thats CR 70 which a 15th-level party could defeat. 3. Sif's Avatar has more hit points than either Thor's Avatar or Odin's Avatar. A few silly things like that.</blockquote>

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