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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EarthSeraphEdna" data-source="post: 4162768" data-attributes="member: 49309">I noticed that there's a big problem when it comes to summoning creatures with extra HD. Let's take a quasi-deity 25th-level human cleric (ECL 45) with double Evil portfolios. He has Automatic Metamagic Capacity x6, which he can use to heighten his summon monster ix spell-like ability to a summon monster xv. This lets him summon an ECL 30 and CR 20 "balor" (for the purpose of this example, I'm assuming that a balor is supposed to be a 15 HD hero-deity). Now, the balor's HD gets tripled to 45 HD because of the cleric's Perfect Summoning (Evil) ability, which is already quite overpowered considering that a 45 HD hero-deity is ECL 60 and CR 40, even more powerful than the cleric himself. But wait, because of the outsider advancement rules, a 45 HD balor gets 9 divine abilities and a +9 divine bonus among other things, supercharging it to ECL 90 and CR 60. And remember that the cleric can potentially use summon monster xv twice per round: once as a swift action and once as a standard action.</blockquote>