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<blockquote data-quote="poilbrun" data-source="post: 779218" data-attributes="member: 532">I do not entirely agree. Maybe UK overrated the ability scores, but you cannot say that high ability scores have no impact, whether at low level or high level. A wizard with 18 CON has twice the hp of the same wizard with 10 CON at level 1. Same thing for the spell DC of any class with spells. A 8 point difference in the ability score is +4 DC of the saving throws. If you look at it only once, that can already make a difference. But if you look at it through the tnire life of a character, how many enemies will fail the ST because of this DC 4 points higher. What about simply a +2 to STR for a fighter. OK, it just gives him a +1 to attack bonus and damage, but on the long run, without this bonus, he may not have hit several times, and fallen 1 point short of killing a creature, which enabled the creature to launch one last attack that killed a member of the party.In my mind, there is no doubt that ability scores have an impact on characters, and as such should be taken into account. What impact it should have, I do not know (I'm terrible at rule balance). Maybe we could say : for every point over a point buy of 28, +x to CR?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="poilbrun, post: 779218, member: 532"] I do not entirely agree. Maybe UK overrated the ability scores, but you cannot say that high ability scores have no impact, whether at low level or high level. A wizard with 18 CON has twice the hp of the same wizard with 10 CON at level 1. Same thing for the spell DC of any class with spells. A 8 point difference in the ability score is +4 DC of the saving throws. If you look at it only once, that can already make a difference. But if you look at it through the tnire life of a character, how many enemies will fail the ST because of this DC 4 points higher. What about simply a +2 to STR for a fighter. OK, it just gives him a +1 to attack bonus and damage, but on the long run, without this bonus, he may not have hit several times, and fallen 1 point short of killing a creature, which enabled the creature to launch one last attack that killed a member of the party. In my mind, there is no doubt that ability scores have an impact on characters, and as such should be taken into account. What impact it should have, I do not know (I'm terrible at rule balance). Maybe we could say : for every point over a point buy of 28, +x to CR? [/QUOTE]

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