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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 787084" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi Anubis mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Absolutely! That is indeed the question.You already know I agree with you on this point (remember our discussion on Messenger last week). Most of the time it seems possible to get away without factoring the ability scores.However, what I am concerned is that it may not be possible all of the time? Something I am still researching.Remember also that I have to consider not just Challenge Rating but also Divine Creation.Well remember of course that the higher you go the less 1 CR impacts EL.This is a sticking point with me I have to be honest. It just creates such a massive discrepancy between relative CRs (PC and Monster) that I am not happy with it.Also it seems hypocritical to factor ability scores for monsters and not characters.Perhaps this is just a mental block with me at the moment, if I could get past this I might be more in favour of your ideas.eg. Pit FiendCR 33 (with ability scores)CR 27 (without ability scores)CR 17 (difficult, with A.S.)CR 14 (difficult, without A.S.)Personally I can advocate a Pit Fiend as a difficult CR 14 (playtesting bears this out), but its noticeably off if we go with CR 17.Its the 'don't factor ability scores for PCs but factor them for monsters' argument that is slowing my decision one way or the other.I already agreed there are merits to not factoring ability scores (simplicity for one, avoiding low level discrepancies another), however to me the scores are all going to be wrong if we factor them for one group and not another. That is my point.</blockquote>

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