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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clay_More" data-source="post: 749065" data-attributes="member: 9813">Good evening again Upper_Krust... Seems you always come on same time as me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Anyways, the problem with the skills all comes down to one central problem about CR that makes it an advisory system more than anything. The ways a DM uses the different monsters are very different. The skills are just an example of this, some DM's might use skills as a big factor of monsters where others hardly ever roll a skill check. Should a DM give his players less experience if he forgot to use the Spell-Like abilities of an Ogre-Magi? Should he give less experience if they slayed a Dragon before it got to use its Breath Weapon, which is an essential part of the CR? Should a DM give less experience if his players encountered a couple of rogues out in an open space where they couldn't use all their special abilities and skills?The skills are what you make them, IMO. If you play a style of game where the skills have little influence, that "could" easily be house-ruled out of the CR equation. If you play a game where skills are heavily used, with hiding ambushes, sneaky kobolds, epic spellcasters etc. then it might by house-ruled into the CR equation as well. Otherwise, the CR-calculating system would soon get too huge, if there should be individual tables for the DM's style of play. Off course, everything is only IMO <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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