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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 762399" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Hi Anubis mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I was just starting to enjoy myself! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I replied to every single shred of evidence you submitted! I couldn't possibly be more accomodating!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You were WRONG about the cost of feats in Intelligent Items. I proved that.</p><p></p><p>You admitted that Evasion was not a feat.</p><p></p><p>I explained why Fast Healing (and Regeneration) cost more.</p><p></p><p>I explained why the Amulet of Natural Armour was incorrectly priced.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>You have shown nothing of the sort.</p><p></p><p>It is ludicrous to suggest they cannot be contrasted and compared when on so many occasions their effects cross pollenate, and by looking at that evidence we can detect a pattern.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Appeal to the authority of the masses. It doesn't matter whether one person thinks it or a million people think it. All that matters is the facts, and in this case the evidence all favours my theory.</p><p></p><p>If it didn't, or someone proves it wrong (and by that I don't just mean say its wrong) then I will be the first to stand up and be counted. Its not about whos right or whos wrong, its about the truth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I haven't just tried, I have succeeded. The only thing thats futile is resistance. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Are you sure you're following the right thread!? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p><p></p><p>Every bit of evidence to date supports my theory! </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Nonsense. Perhaps if only a single feat or item did the same thing then we couldn't contrast them to determine an overall figure, but all the evidence (multiple feats and items) points towards a single feat placed in a magic item costing (approximately) 4000 GP. Possibly slightly more or less, but remember we are looking for relative numbers here not an exact figure.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>The Amulet of Natural Armour should cost the same as Armour and Shield bonuses. Only a Deflection (Ring of Protection) AC bonus should be doubled (because it works against Touch spells etc.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't need playtesting when the answer is as plain as the nose on your face.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Forgive me, but I really don't see how modifying the price of a Cloak of Resistance (or vice versa slighly altering a few feats) is going to throw the game'out of whack'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 762399, member: 326"] Hi Anubis mate! :) I was just starting to enjoy myself! :p I replied to every single shred of evidence you submitted! I couldn't possibly be more accomodating! You were WRONG about the cost of feats in Intelligent Items. I proved that. You admitted that Evasion was not a feat. I explained why Fast Healing (and Regeneration) cost more. I explained why the Amulet of Natural Armour was incorrectly priced. You have shown nothing of the sort. It is ludicrous to suggest they cannot be contrasted and compared when on so many occasions their effects cross pollenate, and by looking at that evidence we can detect a pattern. Appeal to the authority of the masses. It doesn't matter whether one person thinks it or a million people think it. All that matters is the facts, and in this case the evidence all favours my theory. If it didn't, or someone proves it wrong (and by that I don't just mean say its wrong) then I will be the first to stand up and be counted. Its not about whos right or whos wrong, its about the truth. I haven't just tried, I have succeeded. The only thing thats futile is resistance. ;) Are you sure you're following the right thread!? :confused: Every bit of evidence to date supports my theory! Nonsense. Perhaps if only a single feat or item did the same thing then we couldn't contrast them to determine an overall figure, but all the evidence (multiple feats and items) points towards a single feat placed in a magic item costing (approximately) 4000 GP. Possibly slightly more or less, but remember we are looking for relative numbers here not an exact figure. The Amulet of Natural Armour should cost the same as Armour and Shield bonuses. Only a Deflection (Ring of Protection) AC bonus should be doubled (because it works against Touch spells etc.) You don't need playtesting when the answer is as plain as the nose on your face. Forgive me, but I really don't see how modifying the price of a Cloak of Resistance (or vice versa slighly altering a few feats) is going to throw the game'out of whack'. [/QUOTE]
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