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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 1379700" data-attributes="member: 94"><p>This doesn't answer (or even acknowledge) the problem.</p><p></p><p>One system (SRD or UK) has to be right; has to be accurate in assessing the difficulty of an encounter.</p><p></p><p>A CR20-SRD creature is a moderate challenge for 20th level SRD PCs. Because we know that SRD PCs are equivalent in power to UK PCs, then it stands to reason that the creature will be the exact same challenge to the party. </p><p></p><p>Now, you take that <em>exact same creature</em> and, not being lazy, rebuild it from the ground up, using the challenge rating factors in UK's system. Suddenly that creature-- though it has gained no new abilities in the process, and the PCs' abilities have not changed in the slightest-- that creature is suddenly a difficult encounter (CR30-UK).</p><p></p><p>If you maintain that PCs are equivalent in both systems, then essentially you are saying that every single monster CR in the core system is wrong. If you go through the trouble to rebuild those monsters (as God knows, we all know you have done) you should not discover that <em>every</em> monster is actually more difficult in your system than the SRD CR's attest.</p><p></p><p>But this is exactly what happens, and that can't be right. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Wulf</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 1379700, member: 94"] This doesn't answer (or even acknowledge) the problem. One system (SRD or UK) has to be right; has to be accurate in assessing the difficulty of an encounter. A CR20-SRD creature is a moderate challenge for 20th level SRD PCs. Because we know that SRD PCs are equivalent in power to UK PCs, then it stands to reason that the creature will be the exact same challenge to the party. Now, you take that [i]exact same creature[/i] and, not being lazy, rebuild it from the ground up, using the challenge rating factors in UK's system. Suddenly that creature-- though it has gained no new abilities in the process, and the PCs' abilities have not changed in the slightest-- that creature is suddenly a difficult encounter (CR30-UK). If you maintain that PCs are equivalent in both systems, then essentially you are saying that every single monster CR in the core system is wrong. If you go through the trouble to rebuild those monsters (as God knows, we all know you have done) you should not discover that [i]every[/i] monster is actually more difficult in your system than the SRD CR's attest. But this is exactly what happens, and that can't be right. Wulf [/QUOTE]
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