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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jessemock" data-source="post: 1392024" data-attributes="member: 15694">On the contrary to what?  I never said anything about the relativity of an orc's CR.EL is what's relative, which means that is problematic.  The CR serves as a guideline for all cases; the EL serves the purposes of the campaign. A very thoroughly tested design that doesn't count ability scores:  an average is assumed; extremes are not excluded. Look; while calculating a monster's CR, yes, one assumes a 'typical' party--this maintains a standard that other CRs may be measured against.  A CR is a CR, if I buy it from Wizards or from Necromancer (supposedly).When it comes to playing against these things, however, it all becomes relative, on the one hand, because nobody sells PCs, on the other, because playing style (or campaign) determines typicality.If people want to play super-PCs, you don't make adjustments to the EL:  that would defeat the purpose of playing super-PCs.  If people want to play PCs perfectly balanced with CR and they happen to roll up a bunch of high-statted guys, then you may make an adjustment to EL.  It's a matter of maintaining the broadness of the field of options.Though perhaps he doesn't realise it, that's the real implication of Anubis's argument.  The point that counting ability scores may sometimes screw up the the pairing of PCs and challenges (in favour of the challenges) only reveals that this is a situational modifier; sometimes it's relevant and sometimes not--which means as a general rule it's not, in order to err on the side of the PCs.</blockquote>

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