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<blockquote data-quote="Ltheb Silverfrond" data-source="post: 2833109" data-attributes="member: 39867"><p>U_K, heres a question you might be able to answer - Are Divine, Cosmic, Transendental, and Omnific powers their own classification of Power, or do they still fall into the Extraordinary, Spell-Like, or Supernatural ability fields? Or do you have a class all their own for them, like in Deities and Demi Gods (3e) where they make the Salient abilities their own catagory, or do you group them by ranking (Ex - Transendental Powers might be listed as "Planet Erasing Beam (Tr):" or "Cosmic Weapon Focus (Cs):" or my favorite "Summon Great, Great, Great Wyrm Nexus Dragon (Om):" ), or are they all grouped into one catagory.</p><p></p><p>Because as written, though it may not have been WoTC's intention, each classification has rules-weaknesses, such as Ex abilities, while safe from Anti-Magic, are subject to some obscure class features and spells, such as a line of spells from serpent kingdoms (3.5 FR supplement). </p><p>If you have the book, you know what I am talking about, but If not, just imagine a wizard walking up to Algol (Somehow) and casting a spell, and stealing Algol's mind-warping powers (or whatever powers he might have) due to its ability classification. Oh no, poor wizard loses one whole level, but how much does his ECL go up by? Another class feature I saw (dont remember what class got it off hand) let the character duplicate any Ex ability he has ever seen. The Neutronium Golem's X-Ray Pulse is Ex, isnt it? With an epic Scrying spell...</p><p>Of course there are so many feats and classes and spells in 3E that errata and Rule - 0 need to be applied on a case by case basis. ("No mister wizard, Algol foresaw your casting of the spell, and redirected it. You stole his insanity, and are now a babbleing mess. Algol, now completely sane, goes an conquers the universe." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />) </p><p>I just wanted to point this out incase something obvious has been missed, and due to some issue like the ones listed above, your system inadvertently becomes a muchkin-fest (which while fun, defeats the point).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ltheb Silverfrond, post: 2833109, member: 39867"] U_K, heres a question you might be able to answer - Are Divine, Cosmic, Transendental, and Omnific powers their own classification of Power, or do they still fall into the Extraordinary, Spell-Like, or Supernatural ability fields? Or do you have a class all their own for them, like in Deities and Demi Gods (3e) where they make the Salient abilities their own catagory, or do you group them by ranking (Ex - Transendental Powers might be listed as "Planet Erasing Beam (Tr):" or "Cosmic Weapon Focus (Cs):" or my favorite "Summon Great, Great, Great Wyrm Nexus Dragon (Om):" ), or are they all grouped into one catagory. Because as written, though it may not have been WoTC's intention, each classification has rules-weaknesses, such as Ex abilities, while safe from Anti-Magic, are subject to some obscure class features and spells, such as a line of spells from serpent kingdoms (3.5 FR supplement). If you have the book, you know what I am talking about, but If not, just imagine a wizard walking up to Algol (Somehow) and casting a spell, and stealing Algol's mind-warping powers (or whatever powers he might have) due to its ability classification. Oh no, poor wizard loses one whole level, but how much does his ECL go up by? Another class feature I saw (dont remember what class got it off hand) let the character duplicate any Ex ability he has ever seen. The Neutronium Golem's X-Ray Pulse is Ex, isnt it? With an epic Scrying spell... Of course there are so many feats and classes and spells in 3E that errata and Rule - 0 need to be applied on a case by case basis. ("No mister wizard, Algol foresaw your casting of the spell, and redirected it. You stole his insanity, and are now a babbleing mess. Algol, now completely sane, goes an conquers the universe." :)) I just wanted to point this out incase something obvious has been missed, and due to some issue like the ones listed above, your system inadvertently becomes a muchkin-fest (which while fun, defeats the point). [/QUOTE]
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