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<blockquote data-quote="GQuail" data-source="post: 2879685" data-attributes="member: 30709"><p>ZING! :></p><p></p><p>Without going off-topic, I think that Mr Jacobs replied plenty of times in that thread, including on the most recent page where he says what his preferred technique for statting the beasties in question would have been (CR20ish and CR30ish versions) but also said something of why that didn't happen. Whether or not you agree with him, perhaps we should be staying clear of statements like the bolded one, which only lead to chaos.</p><p></p><p>Re: your leadership rules: I think that removing Epic Leadership is probably a good idea, but I'm not sure about your alternate way of working out followers. Changing to rounding down is a good idea, since that's the standard D&D maths idea: but adding on all these extra "rounded" followers seems a bit odd. I don't think they're going to be high enough level to really "matter" to the kind of challenges the Immortals will be facing: your originale xample had a ECL 26 as his highest follower, but an ECL 46 cohort, so he must be at least ECL 48 himself. Frankly, will the difference in effectiveness between ECL 18 and 28 followers make a damn bit of difference in game for that character? Is it worth making a player go through this extra work in handling all these followers when the in-game benefit is relatively minor?</p><p></p><p>It does, as you say, grant them a better "middle management" for their minions. If you're going to play the sort of immortals who will have Inevitables/Slaadi/Demons/Guardinals/whatever on command, you're going to need some bigger slots for followers. It certainly isn't unbalancing IMHO.</p><p></p><p>Now I@ve made my pre-order,, the excitement at getting my hands on your latest creation is mounting. It's almost enough to get a Scotsman through the fact he still hasn't got his Community Supporter status back, and the endless World Cup on the news.... ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GQuail, post: 2879685, member: 30709"] ZING! :> Without going off-topic, I think that Mr Jacobs replied plenty of times in that thread, including on the most recent page where he says what his preferred technique for statting the beasties in question would have been (CR20ish and CR30ish versions) but also said something of why that didn't happen. Whether or not you agree with him, perhaps we should be staying clear of statements like the bolded one, which only lead to chaos. Re: your leadership rules: I think that removing Epic Leadership is probably a good idea, but I'm not sure about your alternate way of working out followers. Changing to rounding down is a good idea, since that's the standard D&D maths idea: but adding on all these extra "rounded" followers seems a bit odd. I don't think they're going to be high enough level to really "matter" to the kind of challenges the Immortals will be facing: your originale xample had a ECL 26 as his highest follower, but an ECL 46 cohort, so he must be at least ECL 48 himself. Frankly, will the difference in effectiveness between ECL 18 and 28 followers make a damn bit of difference in game for that character? Is it worth making a player go through this extra work in handling all these followers when the in-game benefit is relatively minor? It does, as you say, grant them a better "middle management" for their minions. If you're going to play the sort of immortals who will have Inevitables/Slaadi/Demons/Guardinals/whatever on command, you're going to need some bigger slots for followers. It certainly isn't unbalancing IMHO. Now I@ve made my pre-order,, the excitement at getting my hands on your latest creation is mounting. It's almost enough to get a Scotsman through the fact he still hasn't got his Community Supporter status back, and the endless World Cup on the news.... ;-) [/QUOTE]
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