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<blockquote data-quote="GQuail" data-source="post: 2960452" data-attributes="member: 30709"><p>I'm not going to get too bogged down in this paticular strand of discussion: but I will say that whilst I agree that continually failing to meet self-apointed deadlines isn't very classy, throwing around accusations of dubious or illegal behaviour around someone offering a pre-order seems pretty silly.</p><p></p><p>Pre-ordering is not an idea only U_K has ever ran with: even just in RPG circles, it's not uncommon for books before they are finished to ensure funding and establish how big the support is for them. Hell, if you go onto Amazon, you'll see all kinds of films, games and books offered up for pre-order, sometimes only after appearing as a "to be released 2006" entry in a press release. Such products missing deadlines, changing price or vanishing altogether is not unheard of: but people pre-order anyway, hoping to score a cheaper price, a first dibs when it comes to delivery, or just to help out a company whose products they enjoy.</p><p></p><p>Whether you intend to or not, CR_UNLIMITED, these past few posts have certainly come across as "threatning" to me. I'm not expecting every post on this thread to be a "OMG Krusty is so great!!!!11111111!1!1one!" , of course: but if you really think there'se a trading standards sort of issue here, then I suggest you either bring it up with the online store you bought it from and see what their stance is. Upper_Krust ahs made it clear he subscribes to the Duke Nukem Forever model of release dates: threatning him with legal trouble is not going to make him magically produce Ascension.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GQuail, post: 2960452, member: 30709"] I'm not going to get too bogged down in this paticular strand of discussion: but I will say that whilst I agree that continually failing to meet self-apointed deadlines isn't very classy, throwing around accusations of dubious or illegal behaviour around someone offering a pre-order seems pretty silly. Pre-ordering is not an idea only U_K has ever ran with: even just in RPG circles, it's not uncommon for books before they are finished to ensure funding and establish how big the support is for them. Hell, if you go onto Amazon, you'll see all kinds of films, games and books offered up for pre-order, sometimes only after appearing as a "to be released 2006" entry in a press release. Such products missing deadlines, changing price or vanishing altogether is not unheard of: but people pre-order anyway, hoping to score a cheaper price, a first dibs when it comes to delivery, or just to help out a company whose products they enjoy. Whether you intend to or not, CR_UNLIMITED, these past few posts have certainly come across as "threatning" to me. I'm not expecting every post on this thread to be a "OMG Krusty is so great!!!!11111111!1!1one!" , of course: but if you really think there'se a trading standards sort of issue here, then I suggest you either bring it up with the online store you bought it from and see what their stance is. Upper_Krust ahs made it clear he subscribes to the Duke Nukem Forever model of release dates: threatning him with legal trouble is not going to make him magically produce Ascension. [/QUOTE]
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