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<blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 3003647" data-attributes="member: 16221"><p>I think you might be misunderstanding the "Wish" spell a little bit here.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The key thing to note, is that by RAW, if you use Wish to do anything within the 'safe list', it will never pervert your intent or wording. The only time it will EVER do so is if you exceed those limits. The trouble is, beyond those limits, there are no other limits at all, except for the 'pervert your intent' clause! It's a safety valve, nothing more.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is that without this feat, deities can make wishes all the time, and NEVER have them backfire, just like mortals can, and without having to use convoluted wording. All they have to do is stay within the limits of the spell, written out there in that list. Going beyond that list is the only time wording matters... but then, going beyond that list means you're trying something insanely broken anyway.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The trouble with this assumption is that Scifi frequently has creatures of very large size, and of course, one of the goals of these rules is to make it possible to stat out anything you can imagine. I mean, my take on A'tuin the Star Turtle is exemplar of this. That worm thing from Star Wars that the Millenium Falcon landed in (in the asteroid) would be another. That sort of thing. So the size rules are needed...</p><p></p><p>You could rephrase it that Outsider HD or Class Level HD can't exceed that value?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fieari, post: 3003647, member: 16221"] I think you might be misunderstanding the "Wish" spell a little bit here. The key thing to note, is that by RAW, if you use Wish to do anything within the 'safe list', it will never pervert your intent or wording. The only time it will EVER do so is if you exceed those limits. The trouble is, beyond those limits, there are no other limits at all, except for the 'pervert your intent' clause! It's a safety valve, nothing more. What I'm saying is that without this feat, deities can make wishes all the time, and NEVER have them backfire, just like mortals can, and without having to use convoluted wording. All they have to do is stay within the limits of the spell, written out there in that list. Going beyond that list is the only time wording matters... but then, going beyond that list means you're trying something insanely broken anyway. The trouble with this assumption is that Scifi frequently has creatures of very large size, and of course, one of the goals of these rules is to make it possible to stat out anything you can imagine. I mean, my take on A'tuin the Star Turtle is exemplar of this. That worm thing from Star Wars that the Millenium Falcon landed in (in the asteroid) would be another. That sort of thing. So the size rules are needed... You could rephrase it that Outsider HD or Class Level HD can't exceed that value? [/QUOTE]
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