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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dante58701" data-source="post: 4490788" data-attributes="member: 40336">Hey there =^.^=First, it doesn't say that. Second, that would make it more worthy of Epic Feat status rather than Divine Ability status. "YAY!!! MY EXTRA HEAD DOES NOTHING OF VALUE!!! YAY!!!" - Me at my next gaming session. Yeah, consider that notion completely disregarded since you can already cast more than one spell around in that manner without the extra heads and you have just relegated an entire divine ability to mere flavor text. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />There are already innumerable creatures who's multiple heads do MUCH more than that at Non-epic levels. As a MASTER at abusing the system I assure that it is not any more over-powered than many official WOTC class features and feats. I think ur just splitting hairs at this point.Everyone fears multi-faced/headed creatures to the point of absurdity. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />You should follow the thread more closely <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Here we go with assumptions again. Ever consider that I'm trying to make something fit thematically, instead of worrying about neutering it so it's "FAIR" for the other gamers?Let me let you in on something...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> NOTHING ABOUT EPIC IS FAIR UNLESS EVERYONE ELSE CAN DO IT TOO <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I don't allow rules for one character and not another. I also keep a close eye on things so that rules aren't abused (at least from my gaming group's perspective)Very few gamers actually agree on everything. I'll consider this one of those moments. I'm only interested in what is right for my campaign.Instead of saying "NO", like an admonishing parent (as funny as I think it is...and I do take it good-naturedly so relax <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ), why don't you actually calm down and think about what I'm saying. I'm sure if you were completely fair about it (seeing the whole picture) you would realize that what I'm suggesting is not so overpowered as you might think.I disagree, entirely. It is about flexibility. Damage output is just another sacred cow when it comes to multi-headed creatures. There is nothing FAIR about a multi-head creature. But it isn't any less fair than Automatic Metamagic Capacity (x whatever), Metamagic Freedom, and Quicken Spell. Those feats by your own logic are completely broken.In fact, it seems to me that you're following 4.0 a little too closely and have lost touch with 3.5 material. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />According to all of your earlier posts 3.5 is broken anyways. So this is a moot point.How bout we not go the VESTIGIAL HEAD route. That's just completely illogical and defies all conception of biology as we know it. Not to mention countless fantasy books.Your idea of irrelevent and mine are obviously very different.Yet again, you didn't read the whole thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />No it doesn't, that is the head in the sand routine.It's perfectly logical. This chart applies to a 260 lb. Human that acquires VSC's. I actually used one of your own tables to calculate this.Unless of course you think all of your math is wrong??? In which case we better scrap the Epic Bestiary entirely.Actually there is, it's just so minimal that it only matters in terms of accuracy and realism. I prefer accuracy and realism. Of course not, it's more work. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Your right. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It depends entirely on the outsider.=^.^=It isn't really abusable. You're forgetting that it counts against your Character Level. This is hardly abuse.Especially for such a tiny increase in racial HD.</blockquote>

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