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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dante58701" data-source="post: 4523478" data-attributes="member: 40336">AloAs well as preservatives can keep a zombie.Being able to see into another dimension and prevent ethereal opponents from spying on you with impunity isn't worthless. It's actually quite valuable.Again I wasn't referencing your use of the term etheric. I was referencing your description of WHY the ability lets you hit incorporeal targets..."Your vision extends into the ethereal plane." - KRUSTY THESE ARE YOUR WORDS...you must have missed it. Also, 3.5 is VERY CLEAR that ethereal is NOT incorporeal. ------------------------------------------------------------------FROM LIBRIS MORTIS------------------------------------------------------------------Incorporeal vs. EtherealMany people confuse these two terms. Some of this confusionrevolves around the ghost, which can be both ethereal andincorporeal, depending on whether it has manifested.An incorporeal creature is visible but can’t affect (or beaffected by) corporeal objects, except as described above. Itstill exists fully on the Material Plane, despite its inability tointeract with most objects.An ethereal creature exists not on the Material Plane, but onthe Ethereal Plane, which overlaps with the Material Plane atall points. An ethereal creature is invisible and insubstantial. Itcan see and hear creatures on the Material Plane, but everythinglooks gray and ephemeral, and sight and hearing are limited to60 feet. It can’t interact with objects on the Material Plane in anyway. Even most of the limited options available to an incorporealcreature—such as ghost touch weapons and armor—don’twork for an ethereal creature, though force effects still affect itnormally (since those effects extend from the Material to theEthereal Plane). An ethereal creature need not abide by theincorporeal creature’s limitation of remaining adjacent to anobject’s exterior. Finally, an ethereal creature interacts withother ethereal creatures or ethereal objects as if both were onthe Material Plane.Ghosts are ethereal unless they manifest on the MaterialPlane. A ghost on the Ethereal Plane is not incorporeal andcan affect other creatures or objects on the Ethereal Planenormally.A manifested ghost is incorporeal on the Material Plane, butalso remains partially on the Ethereal Plane, where it can interactwith other ethereal targets normally. Its spells can affect targetson the Material Plane as well, except for spells with a range of“Touch” (ranged touch spells work normally).</blockquote>

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