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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 1001435" data-attributes="member: 326"><p><strong>Should I revise the Angels?</strong></p><p></p><p>Hi all! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>I don't yet own 3.5 (until Tuesday) but I am privy to many of the details.</p><p></p><p>Suffice to say the myriad demons and devils have been greatly augmented with the Balor and Pit Fiend now representing entry level Quasi-deities and virtually on a par with the Solar while at the same time leaving the Planetar lagging behind.</p><p></p><p>Personally I am in favour of this boost; but not at the expense of the stagnation of the Angels, or at the very least it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. As I mentioned on another board; "I remember when the Planetar was more powerful than Orcus!"- now it could be punked out by a Marilith. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p>One the one hand this could just be the sour grapes talking and I should just wipe away the tears of nostalgia and take my lumps. But on the other; in the bygone era of AD&D (1st Edition obviously) there was a method behind the madness of the outer planes and its inhabitants (and their respective hierarchies) that is all too sadly lacking in todays sterilised D&D rulebooks (and by that I mean a lack of cross-pollenation and by extension a respect for the other books).</p><p></p><p>Part of me is tempted to return the Planetar and Solar to their former glory in the Immortals Handbook but another part of me says just let it be and detail your own Angels to fill that void thus avoiding the confusion of giving people two Planetars and two Solars...</p><p></p><p>...even if my versions were called Planetary Deva and Stellar Deva respectively. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Any comments?</p><p></p><p>Should I just say no to revising them and leave the past in the past?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 1001435, member: 326"] [b]Should I revise the Angels?[/b] Hi all! :) I don't yet own 3.5 (until Tuesday) but I am privy to many of the details. Suffice to say the myriad demons and devils have been greatly augmented with the Balor and Pit Fiend now representing entry level Quasi-deities and virtually on a par with the Solar while at the same time leaving the Planetar lagging behind. Personally I am in favour of this boost; but not at the expense of the stagnation of the Angels, or at the very least it leaves a sour taste in my mouth. As I mentioned on another board; "I remember when the Planetar was more powerful than Orcus!"- now it could be punked out by a Marilith. :eek: One the one hand this could just be the sour grapes talking and I should just wipe away the tears of nostalgia and take my lumps. But on the other; in the bygone era of AD&D (1st Edition obviously) there was a method behind the madness of the outer planes and its inhabitants (and their respective hierarchies) that is all too sadly lacking in todays sterilised D&D rulebooks (and by that I mean a lack of cross-pollenation and by extension a respect for the other books). Part of me is tempted to return the Planetar and Solar to their former glory in the Immortals Handbook but another part of me says just let it be and detail your own Angels to fill that void thus avoiding the confusion of giving people two Planetars and two Solars... ...even if my versions were called Planetary Deva and Stellar Deva respectively. :p Any comments? Should I just say no to revising them and leave the past in the past? [/QUOTE]
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