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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 1204840" data-attributes="member: 8461">Not to nitpick, but as I understood it, Moradin did create all dwarves; Laduegur (I know I misspelled that) just corrupted the duergur into their current form. Likewise, Moradin and the other dwarven gods don't consider the derro to be dwarves at all - to them, the derro and their gods are freakish monsters.Speaking strictly from a publishing viewpoint...isn't it realy bad to decide to go back and redesign part of a product just before its finished?I can understand both points of this dilemma. I'd say not to agonize over that too much, since even a horde of low-level characters can overwhelm a high-level one...similar principle...though I do see the rationale for wanting a First One to be able to pu the smack down on an entire pantheon.Meaning that a lot would have to be recalculated in terms of power for these beings to deal with each other...this is why its bad to realize all this just before putting the book out.In regards to some beings that are so unbelieveably powerful that they don't/shouldn't need stats...there is a point where it seems to become ridiculous...but there are others who would say that for the gods themselves (like the last two editions did) or for beings like Ao (which is still maintains don't need stats). Basically, I think you've come too far already to worry about whether you're making beings so damn strong that they don't need numbers...you've gone this far, so go the distance!</blockquote>

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