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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4760679" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>If that is the case, then why would there exist powers which explicitly make the distinction for its effects that -that- effect has a keyword, but the rest of the power does not?</p><p></p><p>Also, damage is an effect, just so you know.</p><p></p><p>But look at Burning Blade. It deals damage, and then adds bonus fire damage to future attacks. That future fire damage IS a fire effect, because the -power- that creates it is a fire power. -However-... the power that it adds damage to does -not- gain the fire keyword, even tho it is now dealing fire damage. Therefore, damage types and keywords are -seperate rulespaces- and are -not the same thing-. The problem is that you've interpreted them as the same thing when they are not. Just like an Implement power is not an implement, and a Spirit power is not a spirit. But Implement powers do have implement effects, and spirit powers do have spirit effects.</p><p></p><p>Spirit's truly interesting because the power that creates the necessary spirit does not have the Spirit keyword. So, the conjuration power that makes the spirit for Spirit is not a Spirit power nor a Spirit effect, and the Spirit powers that require the spirit do not create spirits yet are Spirit effects. And yet, it's all effects of the spirit.</p><p></p><p>If -that- can make sense to you, then you can conceptuallize a fire effect that is not fire damage, or a fear effect that deals damage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4760679, member: 71571"] If that is the case, then why would there exist powers which explicitly make the distinction for its effects that -that- effect has a keyword, but the rest of the power does not? Also, damage is an effect, just so you know. But look at Burning Blade. It deals damage, and then adds bonus fire damage to future attacks. That future fire damage IS a fire effect, because the -power- that creates it is a fire power. -However-... the power that it adds damage to does -not- gain the fire keyword, even tho it is now dealing fire damage. Therefore, damage types and keywords are -seperate rulespaces- and are -not the same thing-. The problem is that you've interpreted them as the same thing when they are not. Just like an Implement power is not an implement, and a Spirit power is not a spirit. But Implement powers do have implement effects, and spirit powers do have spirit effects. Spirit's truly interesting because the power that creates the necessary spirit does not have the Spirit keyword. So, the conjuration power that makes the spirit for Spirit is not a Spirit power nor a Spirit effect, and the Spirit powers that require the spirit do not create spirits yet are Spirit effects. And yet, it's all effects of the spirit. If -that- can make sense to you, then you can conceptuallize a fire effect that is not fire damage, or a fear effect that deals damage. [/QUOTE]
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