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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hjorimir" data-source="post: 2294130" data-attributes="member: 5745">The church is very, very powerful in my campaign...and it should be. Take a look at how powerful the church was in England or France (as just one of many examples). Imagine how much MORE influence it would have had if they could remove disease or raise dead.I don't know how most DMs run clerics and religions, but resurrection is the quintessential miracle that others are measured by. The church would never even consider raising somebody who was not in good standing and at least a part of the laity.“Um, senior priest guy, our rogue got ground up in a crushing room trap while we were trying to rob..err I mean explore this ancient tomb…yeah the one you told us to stay away from. Anyway, here are some antiquated gold bars we just happened to find. Can you bring him back to life? Please?”“I shall pray for his soul…and yours. Other than that, we can be of no use to you in this matter. By the way, we did not see you at mass this past Sunday, Cormac.”Trust me, with that attitude the player characters start to find faith awfully fast. Keep in mind there should be no question on the validity of gods in D&D as clerical spells are a certainty. Anybody who denies they exist is clearly insane.</blockquote>