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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 5136381" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>I write this post with all due respect. I am not trying to ruffle any feathers whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>I'm all for people trying to make some money (legally), so I hope to see the website profitable for those that run it. But...(yes...a but, <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />)</p><p></p><p>Getting a new panel dedicated for a banner ad, I can deal with.</p><p></p><p>Getting another new panel dedicated for a banner ad and cramming the forums into a smaller area, I learned to deal with it.</p><p></p><p>Being told I need to pay to not view those banner ads, I can also deal with (nothing wrong with that).</p><p></p><p>Being told I need to pay to use the search feature when that's a pretty standard feature (and encouraged to be used on other sites), I can also deal with if it really is a drain on the resources.</p><p></p><p>Now I'm being told that I basically need to pay for everything else besides writing a post?</p><p></p><p>Yes, I do have a signature that links to my own website where I "might" make a sale or two a week from it. But I have found lots of great D&D resources that I was able to use to better my own D&D game from other peoples signatures. And I provide resources in my sig that I created and put online in hopes that I could return the favor and help other people improve their D&D games.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to raise my hand and be the first person to say, "This sucks man".</p><p></p><p>I've been an active member of the site for several years, but other than the fact my wife won't let me use "our" money to pay for a subscription to a D&D website, I also have never pressed the matter with her because I don't really want to pay for a place to speak my mind when I'm told how to do it, how to interact with someone else doing it, and told when I'm done doing it. I'm all for censorship, and I can respect rules asking us not to troll/flame, or talk about politics & religion. But I can't pay for a forum where I can't talk about D&D the way I want to talk about it without the thread being locked & resulting in a warning or a ban. As Big Worm best put it, "There's principalities in this." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>Yes, I know I will be told, "you are paying for other services, not the ability to post messages." I get it. But I just can't give people money when they defiantly and proudly have told me via email that "Yes, we do regulate your posts & your free speech like a dictatorship." Censorship is one thing, but to warn me about what I said because you don't like the "way" I said it is another thing...and I won't support that by indirectly paying for it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not even complaining about how the site is run. I wouldn't continue posting if I couldn't deal with it. I'm just trying to explain why I don't have a community supporter account. And now it just feels like I'm being bullied into getting one or else I can't get a lot of great stuff from the website (or even offer great stuff) unless I pay for it. A lot of the great stuff that you are taking away from non-subscribers are what brought people to ENworld in the first place. I would not have even become a member of this site if it wasn't for the fact that I found the "Gamers Seeking Gamers" section. </p><p></p><p>I really don't even know what my point is. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> This news just comes as a disappointment to me. It's not even just that I would be losing or gaining anything (we're up to what, six banner ads per page now?), it's also knowing that once again, someone is going to try to do whatever it takes to get more money out of me. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> </p><p></p><p>So ENworld will basically be a place where I can only talk about things as long as I word it in a way that the mods like, and I stop talking about it once the mods are done hearing about it? I'll get nothing else out of visiting the site unless I pay for it? This does indeed suck...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 5136381, member: 18701"] I write this post with all due respect. I am not trying to ruffle any feathers whatsoever. I'm all for people trying to make some money (legally), so I hope to see the website profitable for those that run it. But...(yes...a but, :eek:) Getting a new panel dedicated for a banner ad, I can deal with. Getting another new panel dedicated for a banner ad and cramming the forums into a smaller area, I learned to deal with it. Being told I need to pay to not view those banner ads, I can also deal with (nothing wrong with that). Being told I need to pay to use the search feature when that's a pretty standard feature (and encouraged to be used on other sites), I can also deal with if it really is a drain on the resources. Now I'm being told that I basically need to pay for everything else besides writing a post? Yes, I do have a signature that links to my own website where I "might" make a sale or two a week from it. But I have found lots of great D&D resources that I was able to use to better my own D&D game from other peoples signatures. And I provide resources in my sig that I created and put online in hopes that I could return the favor and help other people improve their D&D games. I'm going to raise my hand and be the first person to say, "This sucks man". I've been an active member of the site for several years, but other than the fact my wife won't let me use "our" money to pay for a subscription to a D&D website, I also have never pressed the matter with her because I don't really want to pay for a place to speak my mind when I'm told how to do it, how to interact with someone else doing it, and told when I'm done doing it. I'm all for censorship, and I can respect rules asking us not to troll/flame, or talk about politics & religion. But I can't pay for a forum where I can't talk about D&D the way I want to talk about it without the thread being locked & resulting in a warning or a ban. As Big Worm best put it, "There's principalities in this." :p Yes, I know I will be told, "you are paying for other services, not the ability to post messages." I get it. But I just can't give people money when they defiantly and proudly have told me via email that "Yes, we do regulate your posts & your free speech like a dictatorship." Censorship is one thing, but to warn me about what I said because you don't like the "way" I said it is another thing...and I won't support that by indirectly paying for it. I'm not even complaining about how the site is run. I wouldn't continue posting if I couldn't deal with it. I'm just trying to explain why I don't have a community supporter account. And now it just feels like I'm being bullied into getting one or else I can't get a lot of great stuff from the website (or even offer great stuff) unless I pay for it. A lot of the great stuff that you are taking away from non-subscribers are what brought people to ENworld in the first place. I would not have even become a member of this site if it wasn't for the fact that I found the "Gamers Seeking Gamers" section. I really don't even know what my point is. :lol: This news just comes as a disappointment to me. It's not even just that I would be losing or gaining anything (we're up to what, six banner ads per page now?), it's also knowing that once again, someone is going to try to do whatever it takes to get more money out of me. :erm: So ENworld will basically be a place where I can only talk about things as long as I word it in a way that the mods like, and I stop talking about it once the mods are done hearing about it? I'll get nothing else out of visiting the site unless I pay for it? This does indeed suck... [/QUOTE]
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