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<blockquote data-quote="TheYeti1775" data-source="post: 5136547" data-attributes="member: 20914"><p>If you didn't draw me in with $3/mo, how do you think you can draw me in with $6/mo??? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Honestly the fault of yours for not balancing the books to say, "ok this $36 is equal to $3 a month over the year" shouldn't stop you from offering the deal.</p><p></p><p>Now if you want to take the responsibility of doing the said annual thing, make it a $50 for the year thing. $14 of it being the inconvenience for you to maintain your books. </p><p></p><p>Losing Sigs, Avatars, having ads on the site aren't big enough issues to want to pay you for. And if you took it further than that such as posting new thread ability, I'm betting you would see traffic come to a stand still on here except for those trying to figure out how to end their subscriptions.</p><p></p><p>Search feature, yup haven't ever had it on here. Was annoying as heck when I first signed up. But Search Engines (Google/Bing/etc) all easily handle it for me. So I'm not losing anything there.</p><p></p><p>Personally I would be annoyed with $3 charge each month on my account. And at $36 a year you aren't actually cheap for the hobby market. Even my Jeep clubs are only $20/yr, and one of them I help run is free to the members. Those of us on the Board of the Directors pay for it out of pocket, members only pay for swag (stickers/shirts/magnets/etc). Even that one with 8 BoD only runs me $50 out of pocket, thou this year's swag sales have us looking at about $30 out of pocket at the current rate.</p><p>And that $20 gets me access to member's knowledge and them helping work on my vehicles along with vendor specials and offers to club members.</p><p></p><p>Now if you want ideas about how to have features for members but keep it fairly open still.</p><p></p><p>Limit Image use. Non-paying posts can only have 3 images including Smiley's. Vbull has this function. I use it on other sites I help maintain.</p><p></p><p>Sigs - Restrict size and URL'ing within them. A non-payer like me can have xx characters with no active url. While a paying member can have a larger sig with active url's.</p><p></p><p>Ads - their an annoyance, but once you get used to them no one pays attention to them really. Hiding them for payers is a good thing.</p><p></p><p>Search function - this is the only site I've ever been on that restricts it to paying members. But again its a good benefit of membership to have.</p><p></p><p>Give-aways - If your going three-tier (non / pay / milked) I would restrict it to the higher tier. The products you have listed as giveaways are a good quality if you can keep it up on a regular basis than you could find a good niche with the multi-tier.</p><p></p><p>Now if you want to have a Game/Player Finder you might want to take a page from Pen & Paper's site. There Finder is a major draw to their site on the basis it is free. </p><p></p><p>Another method of tiering is Normal users like myself, paying members tier, and a vendors tier. Now vendors get ad space and what not. Their tier is more a one on one basis weather it be with product give aways or prize contests or a straight fee.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But now I'm rambling.</p><p></p><p>Though you still haven't convinced me why I should subscribe when there are plenty of places out there they provide the same stuff for free.</p><p>You have to remember making paying memberships out of a niche market is further drawing down your market.</p><p></p><p>Now for an idea worth paying for, make your own RPGA and promote it. That can be your $6/mo tier. Use $2 of that extra $3 to pay for materials and events/campaigns etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheYeti1775, post: 5136547, member: 20914"] If you didn't draw me in with $3/mo, how do you think you can draw me in with $6/mo??? ;) Honestly the fault of yours for not balancing the books to say, "ok this $36 is equal to $3 a month over the year" shouldn't stop you from offering the deal. Now if you want to take the responsibility of doing the said annual thing, make it a $50 for the year thing. $14 of it being the inconvenience for you to maintain your books. Losing Sigs, Avatars, having ads on the site aren't big enough issues to want to pay you for. And if you took it further than that such as posting new thread ability, I'm betting you would see traffic come to a stand still on here except for those trying to figure out how to end their subscriptions. Search feature, yup haven't ever had it on here. Was annoying as heck when I first signed up. But Search Engines (Google/Bing/etc) all easily handle it for me. So I'm not losing anything there. Personally I would be annoyed with $3 charge each month on my account. And at $36 a year you aren't actually cheap for the hobby market. Even my Jeep clubs are only $20/yr, and one of them I help run is free to the members. Those of us on the Board of the Directors pay for it out of pocket, members only pay for swag (stickers/shirts/magnets/etc). Even that one with 8 BoD only runs me $50 out of pocket, thou this year's swag sales have us looking at about $30 out of pocket at the current rate. And that $20 gets me access to member's knowledge and them helping work on my vehicles along with vendor specials and offers to club members. Now if you want ideas about how to have features for members but keep it fairly open still. Limit Image use. Non-paying posts can only have 3 images including Smiley's. Vbull has this function. I use it on other sites I help maintain. Sigs - Restrict size and URL'ing within them. A non-payer like me can have xx characters with no active url. While a paying member can have a larger sig with active url's. Ads - their an annoyance, but once you get used to them no one pays attention to them really. Hiding them for payers is a good thing. Search function - this is the only site I've ever been on that restricts it to paying members. But again its a good benefit of membership to have. Give-aways - If your going three-tier (non / pay / milked) I would restrict it to the higher tier. The products you have listed as giveaways are a good quality if you can keep it up on a regular basis than you could find a good niche with the multi-tier. Now if you want to have a Game/Player Finder you might want to take a page from Pen & Paper's site. There Finder is a major draw to their site on the basis it is free. Another method of tiering is Normal users like myself, paying members tier, and a vendors tier. Now vendors get ad space and what not. Their tier is more a one on one basis weather it be with product give aways or prize contests or a straight fee. But now I'm rambling. Though you still haven't convinced me why I should subscribe when there are plenty of places out there they provide the same stuff for free. You have to remember making paying memberships out of a niche market is further drawing down your market. Now for an idea worth paying for, make your own RPGA and promote it. That can be your $6/mo tier. Use $2 of that extra $3 to pay for materials and events/campaigns etc. [/QUOTE]
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