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<blockquote data-quote="MoutonRustique" data-source="post: 6682849" data-attributes="member: 22362"><p>Basically, I had 4 chances at summoning an elemental. I took the higher CR ones (Salamander once, Earth Elemental the other times). All in all, considering ALL they did - and I'm not exaggerating here - one of my earth elementals was "instrumental" in finishing the fight slightly faster as they provided a "ledge" for the other characters to get to a balcony. And the other, helped get us down from a high ledge (not in combat, was just made easier).</p><p></p><p>While that was nice, it's not really "5th level spell" kind of nice...</p><p></p><p>Note: I included all damage done here (i.e. 0) and all damage received <em>instead</em> of someone else (i.e. 0) and all possible grantings of advantage and cover and everything else.</p><p></p><p>The Salamander dealt around ~10 hp of damage, and that's about it...</p><p></p><p>I'm quite certain there would have been better uses of them - but that's kind of my point, in a way, the base system requirement to be minimally effective is pretty freakin' high...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoutonRustique, post: 6682849, member: 22362"] Basically, I had 4 chances at summoning an elemental. I took the higher CR ones (Salamander once, Earth Elemental the other times). All in all, considering ALL they did - and I'm not exaggerating here - one of my earth elementals was "instrumental" in finishing the fight slightly faster as they provided a "ledge" for the other characters to get to a balcony. And the other, helped get us down from a high ledge (not in combat, was just made easier). While that was nice, it's not really "5th level spell" kind of nice... Note: I included all damage done here (i.e. 0) and all damage received [I]instead[/I] of someone else (i.e. 0) and all possible grantings of advantage and cover and everything else. The Salamander dealt around ~10 hp of damage, and that's about it... I'm quite certain there would have been better uses of them - but that's kind of my point, in a way, the base system requirement to be minimally effective is pretty freakin' high... [/QUOTE]
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