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<blockquote data-quote="Felix" data-source="post: 440826" data-attributes="member: 3929"><p>I'm curious about how a guard who, while he might have an above average STR, certainly doesn't have ranks in Spellcraft can tell that a Druid is trying to wildshape. Wildshaping doesn't have:</p><p>verbal components: druid can stay silent</p><p>somatic components: druid can stay still</p><p>material components: druid doesn't need to get anything from his bag</p><p>divine focus: druid doens't need his holly</p><p>XP cost: druid doesn't wince at his essence being drained from him.</p><p></p><p>So you have a silent, motionless, tied up prisoner laying on the ground with his eyes closed. "Hit him on the head! Isn't it obvious that he's a druid who is trying to shapeshift???"</p><p></p><p>I just don't see it.</p><p></p><p>Drawmack, yes, the druid has to make concentration checks while tied up. No, he cannot take 20. These things you got right.</p><p></p><p>But, I thought your posts a touch sarcastic and condecending. Your "Divine Focus in hand" argument was, admittedly, erronious. Your average prison guard has max ranks in spellcraft. It is not your arguments that people are upset with. It's how you present them that people are upset with. This is why I can see your arguments be ineffective. </p><p></p><p>But your logic is just fine: Druid has to make a concentration check.</p><p></p><p>If I were going to imprison a druid, I'd first cut out his tongue, and then take the advice of those french vampires in "Interview" and place him up side down in a coffin, bricked in afterwards. That might work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felix, post: 440826, member: 3929"] I'm curious about how a guard who, while he might have an above average STR, certainly doesn't have ranks in Spellcraft can tell that a Druid is trying to wildshape. Wildshaping doesn't have: verbal components: druid can stay silent somatic components: druid can stay still material components: druid doesn't need to get anything from his bag divine focus: druid doens't need his holly XP cost: druid doesn't wince at his essence being drained from him. So you have a silent, motionless, tied up prisoner laying on the ground with his eyes closed. "Hit him on the head! Isn't it obvious that he's a druid who is trying to shapeshift???" I just don't see it. Drawmack, yes, the druid has to make concentration checks while tied up. No, he cannot take 20. These things you got right. But, I thought your posts a touch sarcastic and condecending. Your "Divine Focus in hand" argument was, admittedly, erronious. Your average prison guard has max ranks in spellcraft. It is not your arguments that people are upset with. It's how you present them that people are upset with. This is why I can see your arguments be ineffective. But your logic is just fine: Druid has to make a concentration check. If I were going to imprison a druid, I'd first cut out his tongue, and then take the advice of those french vampires in "Interview" and place him up side down in a coffin, bricked in afterwards. That might work. [/QUOTE]
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