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<blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 4829747" data-attributes="member: 80487"><p>I was never really big on the Third Imperium, perhaps partly because it was not yet so strongly associated with Traveller (or so detailed) when I got into the game. I have also noticed that big fans of the setting are not necessarily big fans of moving it forward to the MegaTraveller or New Era milieus.</p><p></p><p>Just last night, I floated the balloon of a new D&D campaign using the original (1987) Forgotten Realms boxed set as a basis. I also have the first six supplements, apart from <em>FR4: The Magister</em>, and a smattering of later ones.</p><p></p><p>I made it very clear that this would be "my" Realms, and the initial response was quite positive. These players could as easily have gone in for Greyhawk, though, or something original (but within their limited range of tastes).</p><p></p><p>So, I'm dealing with a different demographic than the one that has absorbed two or three decades' worth of voluminous product.</p><p></p><p>One thing, though, is that most people have a limit on that horizon. Someone who is so well versed in 20 years of Marvel or DC comics lore might not know much about continuity from further back. Golden Age material is particularly hard to acquire.</p><p></p><p>In watching a movie or something, I might have fun playing a "catch the glitch" trivia game -- but it would not be something to get steamed over unless I thought that fundamentally essential things had been treated with contempt.</p><p></p><p>In a game, I consider the "what if" aspect intrinsic. In an RPG, the point of the affair seems to me for the players to <em>make</em> history. Even the greatest stickler should be able, I think, to accept that "canon" does not apply after year X or beyond a certain geographical region, and that things such as ancient history need be consistent only with what is detailed in a limited body of work.</p><p></p><p>I prefer to go further in making a setting my own. It seems to me difficult actually to play a lively game without it departing increasingly from someone else's version. How do people keep up with a continual stream of "official" material, especially when that is not limited to areas beyond clearly marked frontiers? Even with the latter, is it not a drag needing to avoid pressing past those (whether in space or in time) in one's campaign?</p><p></p><p>It seems to me the differences among <em>thousands</em> of ongoing games, even between one and another, must be more significant than anything introduced by a publisher trying to stay true to the enduring, broad strokes that define a setting. A game master who knows enough to identify important changes should also be competent enough to revise what needs revision for smooth integration into his or her own campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ariosto, post: 4829747, member: 80487"] I was never really big on the Third Imperium, perhaps partly because it was not yet so strongly associated with Traveller (or so detailed) when I got into the game. I have also noticed that big fans of the setting are not necessarily big fans of moving it forward to the MegaTraveller or New Era milieus. Just last night, I floated the balloon of a new D&D campaign using the original (1987) Forgotten Realms boxed set as a basis. I also have the first six supplements, apart from [i]FR4: The Magister[/i], and a smattering of later ones. I made it very clear that this would be "my" Realms, and the initial response was quite positive. These players could as easily have gone in for Greyhawk, though, or something original (but within their limited range of tastes). So, I'm dealing with a different demographic than the one that has absorbed two or three decades' worth of voluminous product. One thing, though, is that most people have a limit on that horizon. Someone who is so well versed in 20 years of Marvel or DC comics lore might not know much about continuity from further back. Golden Age material is particularly hard to acquire. In watching a movie or something, I might have fun playing a "catch the glitch" trivia game -- but it would not be something to get steamed over unless I thought that fundamentally essential things had been treated with contempt. In a game, I consider the "what if" aspect intrinsic. In an RPG, the point of the affair seems to me for the players to [i]make[/i] history. Even the greatest stickler should be able, I think, to accept that "canon" does not apply after year X or beyond a certain geographical region, and that things such as ancient history need be consistent only with what is detailed in a limited body of work. I prefer to go further in making a setting my own. It seems to me difficult actually to play a lively game without it departing increasingly from someone else's version. How do people keep up with a continual stream of "official" material, especially when that is not limited to areas beyond clearly marked frontiers? Even with the latter, is it not a drag needing to avoid pressing past those (whether in space or in time) in one's campaign? It seems to me the differences among [i]thousands[/i] of ongoing games, even between one and another, must be more significant than anything introduced by a publisher trying to stay true to the enduring, broad strokes that define a setting. A game master who knows enough to identify important changes should also be competent enough to revise what needs revision for smooth integration into his or her own campaign. [/QUOTE]
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